All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	sboyd@codeaurora.org, lee.jones@linaro.org,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, geert@linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC RFT 3/3] clk: introduce CLK_ENABLE_HAND_OFF flag
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:39:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150820153922.GE30520@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150818163931.31346.78267@quantum>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1658 bytes --]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:39:31AM -0700, Michael Turquette wrote:
> > In my mind, the fact that we hand off the clock reference is a direct
> > result to the clock being critical (or whatever name we want to call
> > it). The hand off is a side effect, but the real information we want
> > to carry is that it should not be gated.
> 
> I chose the "hand-off" name because I want to set an expectation to
> users of this feature. That expectation is that some day they will have
> a Linux device driver that claims and manages this "critical clock".
> Clearly this is not always the case. Many clocks using this feature will
> never have a driver that "owns" them.
> 
> But I wanted to avoid any kind of "always on" or "easy hack to avoid
> writing proper driver code" naming convention that encourages bad
> behavior down the line.
> 
> Also, the hand-off thing is sort of a big deal. If driver writers only
> thought of this as an "alway on" mechanism then subtle bugs might creep
> in where drivers are getting and disabling a clock that the author
> incorrectly thought would always be enabled. So I'd like the name to
> reflect that somehow.
> 
> As always I am open to suggestions.

For the record, I think always-on would be just as bad, since it has
the same issue of describing the behaviour instead of describing what
the clock is.

I would think critical is better, and if you feel there's some
unexpected behaviour, we can always add some comment / documentation
for that (heresy, I know ;))

Maxime

-- 
Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 819 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-20 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-07 19:09 [PATCH RFC RFT 0/3] clk: detect per-user enable imbalances and implement hand-off Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 1/3] clk: per-user clk prepare & enable ref counts Michael Turquette
2015-08-10 13:47   ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-10 19:31     ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 2/3] clk: clk_put WARNs if user has not disabled clk Michael Turquette
2015-09-30 15:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-30 15:38     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-30 15:38     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-30 15:38     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-20 12:40     ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-20 12:40       ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-20 12:40       ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-20 12:52       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-20 12:52         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-20 12:52         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-20 12:52         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21  9:50       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21  9:50         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21  9:50         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21  9:50         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 10:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 10:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 10:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 10:59           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 15:50           ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 15:50             ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 15:50             ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 15:50             ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 15:50             ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 16:46             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 16:46               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 16:46               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 16:46               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-22  9:57               ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-22  9:57                 ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-22  9:57                 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 3/3] clk: introduce CLK_ENABLE_HAND_OFF flag Michael Turquette
2015-08-10 14:48   ` Lee Jones
2015-08-10 18:55     ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11  8:43       ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 10:02         ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 10:11           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 11:36             ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 11:41               ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 11:49                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 12:03                   ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 12:34                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 12:03                   ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09             ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 17:09               ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:17               ` Lee Jones
2015-08-12  7:27                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-12  7:51                   ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09           ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 17:09             ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:20             ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09         ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:33           ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 18:58             ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-18 15:52               ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:33                 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:11                   ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 15:58   ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:39     ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:39       ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2015-08-10 15:36 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 0/3] clk: detect per-user enable imbalances and implement hand-off Lee Jones
2015-08-10 19:28   ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11  9:11     ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11  9:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 16:41   ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 17:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-18 15:45 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:43   ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:15     ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-25 21:50       ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-26  6:54         ` Lee Jones
2015-08-26  8:42           ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-26  9:09             ` Lee Jones
2015-08-26  9:37               ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-26 20:41                 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-29  3:49           ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-29  3:55         ` Maxime Ripard
2015-09-30 12:36           ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-01 19:56             ` Maxime Ripard
2015-11-24  9:48 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-12-05  0:46   ` Michael Turquette
2015-12-05  0:46     ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 21:33     ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 21:33       ` Michael Turquette

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20150820153922.GE30520@lukather \
    --to=maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com \
    --cc=geert@linux-m68k.org \
    --cc=lee.jones@linaro.org \
    --cc=linux-clk@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mturquette@baylibre.com \
    --cc=s.hauer@pengutronix.de \
    --cc=sboyd@codeaurora.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.