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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 17:30:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150904153035.GH18489@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFy8piVoCKBVbv3DfXKa-rktjDJttb2PyFvw6LJQfm4JDA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 08:21:28AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > The reason we chose to revert to a test-and-set is because regular fair
> > locks, like the ticket and the queue thing, have horrible behaviour
> > under vcpu preemption.
> 
> Right. However, with our old ticket locks, that's what we got when you
> didn't ask for paravirt support. No?

Indeed.

> And even ignoring the "implementation was crap" issue, some people may
> well want their kernels to be "bare hardware" kernels even under a
> hypervisor. It may be a slim hypervisor that gives you all the cpus,
> or it may just be a system that is just sufficiently overprovisioned,
> so you don't get vcpu preemption in practice.

Fair enough; I had not considered the slim hypervisor case.

Should I place the virt_spin_lock() thing under CONFIG_PARAVIRT (maybe
even _SPINLOCKS) such that only paravirt enabled kernels when ran on a
hypervisor that does not support paravirt patching (HyperV, VMware,
etc..) revert to the test-and-set?

> But it would be interesting to hear if just fixing the busy-looping to
> not pound the lock with a constant stream of cmpxchg's is already
> sufficient to fix the big picture problem.

Dave replaced the cpu_relax() with a __delay(1) to match what
spinlock-debug does and that fixed things for him.

Of course, it would be good if he can try the proposed patch too.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-04 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-04  5:48 [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression Dave Chinner
2015-09-04  6:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04  7:11   ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04  7:31     ` Juergen Gross
2015-09-04  7:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  8:29     ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04 15:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04 15:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04 15:30             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-09-04 15:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-10  2:06                 ` Waiman Long
2015-09-04 15:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-05 17:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-06 23:32             ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-07  0:05             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-09-07  6:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 20:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-08  6:37                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-09-08 10:05                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 17:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-13 10:55             ` [tip:locking/core] locking/qspinlock/x86: Fix performance regression under unaccelerated VMs tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  7:39   ` [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  8:12     ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04 11:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 22:03         ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-06 23:47         ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-10  2:09           ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <CAC=cRTOraeOeu3Z8C1qx6w=GMSzD_4VevrEzn0mMhrqy=7n3wQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <56094F05.4090809@hpe.com>
2015-09-29  0:47             ` huang ying
2015-09-29  2:57               ` Waiman Long
2015-09-10  2:01 ` Waiman Long

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