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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com, jack@suse.cz, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] xfs: Don't use unwritten extents for DAX
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:36:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151030123657.GC54905@bfoster.bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151029233756.GS19199@dastard>

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:37:56AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:29:50AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 02:27:15PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > > 
...
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * For DAX, we do not allocate unwritten extents, but instead we zero
> > > +	 * the block before we commit the transaction.  Ideally we'd like to do
> > > +	 * this outside the transaction context, but if we commit and then crash
> > > +	 * we may not have zeroed the blocks and this will be exposed on
> > > +	 * recovery of the allocation. Hence we must zero before commit.
> > > +	 * Further, if we are mapping unwritten extents here, we need to zero
> > > +	 * and convert them to written so that we don't need an unwritten extent
> > > +	 * callback for DAX. This also means that we need to be able to dip into
> > > +	 * the reserve block pool if there is no space left but we need to do
> > > +	 * unwritten extent conversion.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (IS_DAX(VFS_I(ip))) {
> > > +		bmapi_flags = XFS_BMAPI_CONVERT | XFS_BMAPI_ZERO;
> > > +		tp->t_flags |= XFS_TRANS_RESERVE;
> > > +	}
> > 
> > Am I following the commit log description correctly in that block
> > zeroing is only required for DAX faults? Do we zero blocks for DAX DIO
> > as well to be consistent, or is that also required (because it looks
> > like we still have end_io completion for dio writes anyways)?
> 
> DAX DIO will do the zeroing rather than using unwritten extents,
> too. But we still have DIO IO completion as that needs to do file
> size updates.
> 

Right, my question is: is the DAX DIO zeroing required to avoid the
races described as the purpose for this patch, or is this just here as a
simplification? In other words, why not do block zeroing only for DAX
faults and not DAX/DIO?

I ask because my understanding is the purpose of this patch is a special
atomic zeroed allocation requirement just for mmap. Unless there is some
special mixed dio/mmap case I'm missing, doing so for DAX/DIO basically
causes a clear_pmem() over every page sized chunk of the target I/O
range for which we already have the data. Perhaps that is fine (for now)
from a performance perspective, but seems unnecessary. Further, we still
have write completion in place which means we can still handle unwritten
conversion just as easily for DAX/DIO as normal DIO.

Thoughts?

Brian

> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-30 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-19  3:27 [PATCH 0/6 V2] xfs: upfront block zeroing for DAX Dave Chinner
2015-10-19  3:27 ` [PATCH 1/6] xfs: fix inode size update overflow in xfs_map_direct() Dave Chinner
2015-10-29 14:27   ` Brian Foster
2015-10-19  3:27 ` [PATCH 2/6] xfs: introduce BMAPI_ZERO for allocating zeroed extents Dave Chinner
2015-10-29 14:27   ` Brian Foster
2015-10-29 23:35     ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-30 12:36       ` Brian Foster
2015-11-02  1:21         ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-19  3:27 ` [PATCH 3/6] xfs: Don't use unwritten extents for DAX Dave Chinner
2015-10-29 14:29   ` Brian Foster
2015-10-29 23:37     ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-30 12:36       ` Brian Foster [this message]
2015-11-02  1:14         ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-02 14:15           ` Brian Foster
2015-11-02 21:44             ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-02 21:44               ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-02 21:44               ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-03  3:53               ` Dan Williams
2015-11-03  3:53                 ` Dan Williams
2015-11-03  3:53                 ` Dan Williams
2015-11-03  5:04                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-03  5:04                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-04  0:50                   ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-04  0:50                     ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-04  1:02                     ` Dan Williams
2015-11-04  1:02                       ` Dan Williams
2015-11-04  4:46                       ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-04  4:46                         ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-04  9:06                         ` Jan Kara
2015-11-04  9:06                           ` Jan Kara
2015-11-04 15:35                           ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-04 15:35                             ` Ross Zwisler
2015-11-04 17:21                             ` Jan Kara
2015-11-04 17:21                               ` Jan Kara
2015-11-03  9:16               ` Jan Kara
2015-11-03  9:16                 ` Jan Kara
2015-10-19  3:27 ` [PATCH 4/6] xfs: DAX does not use IO completion callbacks Dave Chinner
2015-10-29 14:29   ` Brian Foster
2015-10-29 23:39     ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-30 12:37       ` Brian Foster
2015-10-19  3:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] xfs: add ->pfn_mkwrite support for DAX Dave Chinner
2015-10-29 14:30   ` Brian Foster
2015-10-19  3:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] xfs: xfs_filemap_pmd_fault treats read faults as write faults Dave Chinner
2015-10-29 14:30   ` Brian Foster
2015-11-05 23:48 ` [PATCH 0/6 V2] xfs: upfront block zeroing for DAX Ross Zwisler
2015-11-06 22:32   ` Dave Chinner
2015-11-06 18:12 ` Boylston, Brian

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