From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965649AbbKDQD7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:03:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:44878 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932323AbbKDQDz (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:03:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 10:03:54 -0600 From: Josh Poimboeuf To: Miroslav Benes Cc: Chris J Arges , live-patching@vger.kernel.org, jeyu@redhat.com, Seth Jennings , Jiri Kosina , Vojtech Pavlik , linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] livepatch: old_name.number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Message-ID: <20151104160354.GA29899@treble.redhat.com> References: <20151102203241.GF27488@treble.redhat.com> <1446505187-28970-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com> <20151103145843.GH27488@treble.redhat.com> <20151103165058.GM27488@treble.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1-rc1 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 10:52:52AM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > > > Object entry would be empty for not loaded object. I would not > > > dare to propose to remove such object entries. It would make things worse. > > > > Why would removing an empty object entry make things worse? > > I think it all comes down to a question whether the sysfs entries say what > a patch is capable to patch or what this patch is currently patching in > the system. I am inclined to the former so the removal would make me > nervous. But I am not against the second approach. We are still in testing > mode as far as sysfs is concerned so we can try even harsh changes and see > how it's gonna go. I see your point. This approach only describes what is patched now, but it doesn't describe what *will* be patched. Ideally we could find a way to describe both. Speaking of harsh changes, here's an idea. What if we require the patch author to supply the value of 'n' instead of supplying the symbol address? We could get rid of 'old_addr' as an input in klp_func and and replace it with 'old_sympos' which has the value of 'n'. Or alternatively we could require old_name to be of the format "func,n". That would uniquely identify each patched function, even _before_ the object is loaded. It would also fix another big problem we have today, where there's no way to disambiguate duplicate symbols in modules, for both function addresses and for relocs. It would simplify the code in other places as well: no special handling for kASLR, no need for klp_verify_vmlinux_symbol() vs klp_find_object_symbol(). A drawback is that it requires the patch author to do a little more due diligence when filling out klp_func. But we already require them to be careful. Thoughts? -- Josh