Hi Oleg, On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 06:59:58PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote: [snip] > > Unfortunately this doesn't look exactly right... > > spin_unlock_wait() is not equal to "while (locked) relax", the latter > is live-lockable or at least sub-optimal: we do not really need to spin Just be curious, should spin_unlock_wait() semantically be an ACQUIRE? Because spin_unlock_wait() is used for us to wait for a certain lock to RELEASE so that we can do something *after* we observe the RELEASE. Considering the follow example: CPU 0 CPU 1 ============================ =========================== { X = 0 } WRITE_ONCE(X, 1); spin_unlock(&lock); spin_unlock_wait(&lock) r1 = READ_ONCE(X); If spin_unlock_wait() is not an ACQUIRE, r1 can be 0 in this case, right? Am I missing something subtle here? Or spin_unlock_wait() itself doesn't have the ACQUIRE semantics, but it should always come with a smp_mb() *following* it to achieve the ACQUIRE semantics? However in do_exit(), an smp_mb() is preceding raw_spin_unlock_wait() rather than following, which makes me confused... could you explain that? Thank you ;-) Regards, Boqun > until we observe !spin_is_locked(), we only need to synchronize with the > current owner of this lock. Once it drops the lock we can proceed, we > do not care if another thread takes the same lock right after that. > > Oleg. >