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From: Javi Merino <javi.merino@arm.com>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:26:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151113112636.GA12760@e104805> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151113100912.GE8526@pengutronix.de>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:09:12AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:27:47AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0000, Javi Merino wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 11:13:32AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > 
> > > <cut>
> > > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * The MT8173 thermal controller has four banks. Each bank can read up to
> > > > > + * four temperature sensors simultaneously. The MT8173 has a total of 5
> > > > > + * temperature sensors. We use each bank to measure a certain area of the
> > > > > + * SoC. Since TS2 is located centrally in the SoC it is influenced by multiple
> > > > > + * areas, hence is used in different banks.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +static const struct mtk_thermal_bank_cfg bank_data[] = {
> > > > > +	{
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 2,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS2, MT8173_TS3 },
> > > > > +	}, {
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 2,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS2, MT8173_TS4 },
> > > > > +	}, {
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 3,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS1, MT8173_TS2, MT8173_TSABB },
> > > > > +	}, {
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 1,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS2 },
> > > > > +	},
> > > > > +};
> > > 
> > > Would it make sense to simply expose all sensors and let the
> > > configuration of their aggregation be done by DT?
> > 
> > This particular layout has been chosen because there's also the Smart
> > Voltage Scaler (SVS) in the SoC. The SVS uses the same banks for
> > measuring temperatures. I don't know the details yet, I just asked the
> > Mediatek guys.
> 
> Ok, the job of the SVS is to always pick the best voltage for a given
> CPU frequency based on the temperature of the CPU cluster. How I
> understand it the SVS engine automatically reads temperatures from bank0
> for the first CPU cluster and from bank1 for the second CPU cluster. For
> this to work we are not free to assign the sensors to the banks
> arbitrarily.
> 
> I was told that controlling the CPU frequency the performance is better
> if we use the maximum temperature of the whole die rather than the
> temperature of individual clusters.
> 
> I would prefer to keep the sensor/bank association like it currently is
> as it allows for easy SVS engine integration. Also I would prefer to
> expose a single thermal zone for now, it will be easier to add
> additional zones later than it is to remove them later once we have
> exposed them to the device tree.
> 
> Is that ok with you?

Fair enough.  I agree that it's easier to add thermal zones in the
future than to remove it.  Thanks for the explanation.

Cheers,
Javi

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: javi.merino@arm.com (Javi Merino)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:26:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151113112636.GA12760@e104805> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151113100912.GE8526@pengutronix.de>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:09:12AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:27:47AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:26:30AM -0800, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0000, Javi Merino wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 11:13:32AM +0100, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > > 
> > > <cut>
> > > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * The MT8173 thermal controller has four banks. Each bank can read up to
> > > > > + * four temperature sensors simultaneously. The MT8173 has a total of 5
> > > > > + * temperature sensors. We use each bank to measure a certain area of the
> > > > > + * SoC. Since TS2 is located centrally in the SoC it is influenced by multiple
> > > > > + * areas, hence is used in different banks.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +static const struct mtk_thermal_bank_cfg bank_data[] = {
> > > > > +	{
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 2,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS2, MT8173_TS3 },
> > > > > +	}, {
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 2,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS2, MT8173_TS4 },
> > > > > +	}, {
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 3,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS1, MT8173_TS2, MT8173_TSABB },
> > > > > +	}, {
> > > > > +		.num_sensors = 1,
> > > > > +		.sensors = { MT8173_TS2 },
> > > > > +	},
> > > > > +};
> > > 
> > > Would it make sense to simply expose all sensors and let the
> > > configuration of their aggregation be done by DT?
> > 
> > This particular layout has been chosen because there's also the Smart
> > Voltage Scaler (SVS) in the SoC. The SVS uses the same banks for
> > measuring temperatures. I don't know the details yet, I just asked the
> > Mediatek guys.
> 
> Ok, the job of the SVS is to always pick the best voltage for a given
> CPU frequency based on the temperature of the CPU cluster. How I
> understand it the SVS engine automatically reads temperatures from bank0
> for the first CPU cluster and from bank1 for the second CPU cluster. For
> this to work we are not free to assign the sensors to the banks
> arbitrarily.
> 
> I was told that controlling the CPU frequency the performance is better
> if we use the maximum temperature of the whole die rather than the
> temperature of individual clusters.
> 
> I would prefer to keep the sensor/bank association like it currently is
> as it allows for easy SVS engine integration. Also I would prefer to
> expose a single thermal zone for now, it will be easier to add
> additional zones later than it is to remove them later once we have
> exposed them to the device tree.
> 
> Is that ok with you?

Fair enough.  I agree that it's easier to add thermal zones in the
future than to remove it.  Thanks for the explanation.

Cheers,
Javi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-13 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-09 10:13 [PATCH v10] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: thermal: Add binding document for Mediatek thermal controller Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 15:59   ` Rob Herring
2015-11-09 15:59     ` Rob Herring
2015-11-09 10:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 14:39   ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-11-09 14:39     ` Andy Shevchenko
2015-11-18  8:11     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-18  8:11       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-18  8:11       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-10 12:05   ` Javi Merino
2015-11-10 12:05     ` Javi Merino
2015-11-10 18:26     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-11-10 18:26       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-11-11  7:27       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-11  7:27         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-11  9:40         ` Javi Merino
2015-11-11  9:40           ` Javi Merino
2015-11-11  9:40           ` Javi Merino
2015-11-13 10:09         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-13 10:09           ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-13 11:26           ` Javi Merino [this message]
2015-11-13 11:26             ` Javi Merino
2015-11-18  8:18             ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-18  8:18               ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM64: dts: mt8173: Add thermal/auxadc device nodes Sascha Hauer
2015-11-09 10:13   ` Sascha Hauer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-11-30 11:42 [PATCH v12] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-11-30 11:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-11-30 11:42   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-12-17 19:33   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-12-17 19:33     ` Eduardo Valentin
2016-01-04 14:19     ` Sascha Hauer
2016-01-04 14:19       ` Sascha Hauer
2016-01-19  7:29       ` Sascha Hauer
2016-01-19  7:29         ` Sascha Hauer
2016-02-01  2:54         ` Eddie Huang
2016-02-01  2:54           ` Eddie Huang
2016-02-01  2:54           ` Eddie Huang
2016-02-15  2:11           ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-02-15  2:11             ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-02-15  2:11             ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-02-15  2:14             ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-02-15  2:14               ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-02-15  2:14               ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-02-17 17:05               ` Matthias Brugger
2016-02-17 17:05                 ` Matthias Brugger
2016-02-17 17:05                 ` Matthias Brugger
2016-02-18 10:56                 ` Sascha Hauer
2016-02-18 10:56                   ` Sascha Hauer
2016-02-18 10:56                   ` Sascha Hauer
2016-02-18 14:28                   ` Javi Merino
2016-02-18 14:28                     ` Javi Merino
2016-02-18 14:28                     ` Javi Merino
2016-02-18 15:15                   ` Eduardo Valentin
2016-02-18 15:15                     ` Eduardo Valentin
2016-02-18 15:15                     ` Eduardo Valentin
2016-02-19  7:21                     ` Sascha Hauer
2016-02-19  7:21                       ` Sascha Hauer
2016-02-19  7:21                       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-12-21  4:07   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-12-21  4:07     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-12-21  4:07     ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-01-04 14:31     ` Sascha Hauer
2016-01-04 14:31       ` Sascha Hauer
2016-01-04 14:31       ` Sascha Hauer
2016-01-04 15:43       ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-01-04 15:43         ` Daniel Kurtz
2016-01-04 15:43         ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-11-18  8:24 [PATCH v11] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-11-18  8:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-11-18  8:24   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-24  6:06   ` dawei chien
2015-11-24  6:06     ` dawei chien
2015-11-24  6:06     ` dawei chien
2015-11-24  7:53     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-11-24  7:53       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-23 13:37 [PATCH v9] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-09-23 13:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-09-23 13:37   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-23 18:31   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2015-09-23 18:31     ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2015-09-23 18:31     ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2015-09-30  6:14     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-30  6:14       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-29 23:04   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-09-29 23:04     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-09-29 23:04     ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-09-30  6:13     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-30  6:13       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-30  9:36   ` Punit Agrawal
2015-09-30  9:36     ` Punit Agrawal
2015-09-30  9:36     ` Punit Agrawal
2015-09-30 10:37     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-30 10:37       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-30 11:07       ` Punit Agrawal
2015-09-30 11:07         ` Punit Agrawal
2015-08-31  7:34 [PATCH v8] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-31  7:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-31  7:34   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-31  7:34   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-14  7:32   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-09-14  7:32     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-09-14  7:32     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-09-22  7:30     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-09-22  7:30       ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-09-22  7:30       ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-09-22  8:30       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-22  8:30         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-09-22  8:30         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-27  6:41 [PATCH v7] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-27  6:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-27 11:50   ` Punit Agrawal
2015-08-26 13:58 [PATCH v6] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-26 13:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-20  8:05 [PATCH v5] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-20  8:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-20 22:20   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-08-20 22:29     ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-08-21  5:06     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-20 23:12   ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-08-26 13:54     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-26 14:02       ` Daniel Lezcano
2015-08-25 17:41   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-08-07 13:55 [PATCH v4] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-07 13:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-11  7:03   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-08-20  7:57     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-05 12:25 [PATCH v3] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-05 12:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-08-05 18:02   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-08-06  8:10     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-21  7:59 [PATCH v2] Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-07-21  7:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-07-21  7:59   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-21 15:13   ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-21 15:13     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-07-21 15:13     ` Daniel Kurtz
2015-08-05 10:20     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-05 10:20       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-08-05 10:20       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-13 10:34 [PATCH] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal support Sascha Hauer
2015-07-13 10:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-07-13 10:34   ` Sascha Hauer

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