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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Richard Weinberger
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Subject: Re: CGroup Namespaces (v4)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 14:46:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151116204606.GA30681__32103.8969829262$1447706791$gmane$org@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLxGvzVmbZHrpaTmXUAK03hsnVPwEs3SJGNFNXfthh3NL8EDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 09:41:15PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Serge,
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:51 PM,  <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > To summarize the semantics:
> >
> > 1. CLONE_NEWCGROUP re-uses 0x02000000, which was previously CLONE_STOPPED
> >
> > 2. unsharing a cgroup namespace makes all your current cgroups your new
> > cgroup root.
> >
> > 3. /proc/pid/cgroup always shows cgroup paths relative to the reader's
> > cgroup namespce root.  A task outside of  your cgroup looks like
> >
> >         8:memory:/../../..
> >
> > 4. when a task mounts a cgroupfs, the cgroup which shows up as root depends
> > on the mounting task's  cgroup namespace.
> >
> > 5. setns to a cgroup namespace switches your cgroup namespace but not
> > your cgroups.
> >
> > With this, using github.com/hallyn/lxc #2015-11-09/cgns (and
> > github.com/hallyn/lxcfs #2015-11-10/cgns) we can start a container in a full
> > proper cgroup namespace, avoiding either cgmanager or lxcfs cgroup bind mounts.
> >
> > This is completely backward compatible and will be completely invisible
> > to any existing cgroup users (except for those running inside a cgroup
> > namespace and looking at /proc/pid/cgroup of tasks outside their
> > namespace.)
> >    cgroupns-root.
> 
> IIRC one downside of this series was that only the new "sane" cgroup
> layout was supported
> and hence it was useless for everything which expected the default layout.
> Hence, still no systemd for us. :)
> 
> Is this now different?

Yes, all hierachies are no supported.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-16 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-16 19:51 CGroup Namespaces (v4) serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51 ` serge
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace serge
2015-11-16 19:51   ` serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <1447703505-29672-1-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 1/8] kernfs: Add API to generate relative kernfs path serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51     ` serge
     [not found]     ` <1447703505-29672-2-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:16       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:16     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:16       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:17       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:17         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 17:43         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-24 17:43           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20151124161709.GM17033-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 17:43           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20151124161630.GL17033-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:17         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-27  5:25         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-27  5:25       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-27  5:25         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20151127052511.GA25490-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30 15:11           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-30 15:11         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-30 15:11           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-30 18:37           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-30 18:37             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-30 22:53             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20151130225318.GD9039-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01  2:08                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-01  2:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-01  2:08                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20151130183758.GA25433-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30 22:53               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20151130151147.GG3535-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30 18:37             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 2/8] sched: new clone flag CLONE_NEWCGROUP for cgroup namespace serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 3/8] cgroup: add function to get task's cgroup serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51     ` serge
     [not found]     ` <1447703505-29672-4-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:27       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:27         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20151124162728.GN17033-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:54           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:54         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:54           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 4/8] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 5/8] cgroup: introduce cgroup namespaces serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51     ` serge
2015-11-24 16:49     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:49       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1447703505-29672-6-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:49       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 6/8] cgroup: cgroup namespace setns support serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51     ` serge
     [not found]     ` <1447703505-29672-7-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:52       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:52     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:52       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 7/8] cgroup: mount cgroupns-root when inside non-init cgroupns serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51     ` serge
     [not found]     ` <1447703505-29672-8-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 17:16       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 17:16     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 17:16       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25  6:01       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20151125060156.GA678-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 19:10           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25 19:10         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25 19:10           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20151125191041.GB14240-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 19:55             ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-25 19:55           ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-25 19:55             ` Serge Hallyn
2015-11-25 19:57             ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25 19:57               ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-25 19:57             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20151124171610.GS17033-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25  6:01         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-27  5:17         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-27  5:17       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-27  5:17         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20151127051745.GA24521-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30 15:09           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-30 15:09         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-30 15:09           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20151130150938.GF3535-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01  4:07             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-01  4:07           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-01  4:07             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20151201040704.GA31067-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01 16:46               ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-01 16:46             ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-01 16:46               ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-01 21:58               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-01 21:58                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 16:53                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-02 16:53                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20151202165312.GB19878-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-02 16:56                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 16:56                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 16:56                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 16:58                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-02 16:58                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20151202165839.GD19878-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-02 17:02                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 17:02                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-02 17:02                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20151202170239.GA21009-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-02 17:05                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-02 17:05                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-03 22:47                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-03 22:47                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-12-07 15:39                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-12-07 15:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20151207153911.GF9175-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-07 15:53                                   ` Serge Hallyn
2015-12-07 15:53                                     ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                               ` <20151203224706.GA19971-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-07 15:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                             ` <20151202170551.GE19878-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-03 22:47                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20151202165637.GA20840-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-02 16:58                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20151201215853.GA9153-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-02 16:53                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20151201164649.GD12922-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01 21:58                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 19:51   ` [PATCH 8/8] cgroup: Add documentation for cgroup namespaces serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-11-16 19:51     ` serge
2015-11-24 17:16     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 17:16       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1447703505-29672-9-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 17:16       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 20:41   ` CGroup Namespaces (v4) Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 19:51 ` [PATCH 4/8] cgroup: export cgroup_get() and cgroup_put() serge
2015-11-16 19:51   ` serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]   ` <1447703505-29672-5-git-send-email-serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 16:30     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 16:30       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-24 22:35       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-24 22:35         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20151124163056.GO17033-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 22:35         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 20:41 ` CGroup Namespaces (v4) Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 20:41   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 20:46   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 20:46     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 20:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 20:50       ` Richard Weinberger
2015-11-16 20:54       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 20:54         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-16 22:24         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-16 22:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-16 22:37           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-16 22:37             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <87y4dxh9b8.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 22:37             ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-17  1:13             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  1:13               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  1:13               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  1:40               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  1:40                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  3:54                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-17  3:54                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20151117014026.GA2331-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-17  3:54                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]               ` <20151117011349.GA1958-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-17  1:40                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-18  2:30             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-18  2:30               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]               ` <20151118023022.GA17501-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18  9:18                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-18  9:18                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                   ` <87r3jnfyx7.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18 15:43                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-11-18 15:43                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20151116205452.GA30975-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 22:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <564A41AF.4040208-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 20:54         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20151116204606.GA30681-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 20:50       ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]   ` <CAFLxGvzVmbZHrpaTmXUAK03hsnVPwEs3SJGNFNXfthh3NL8EDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 20:46     ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]

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