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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	max@rfc2324.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Stable interface index option
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 13:44:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151201134407.3018adcc@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1449004499.3829359.455124521.608D0A9E@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:14:59 +0100
Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015, at 21:57, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 12:20:38 -0800
> > 
> > > On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 14:28:47 -0500 (EST)
> > > David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > >> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 08:06:52 -0800
> > >> 
> > >> > On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 17:02:23 +0100
> > >> > Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org> wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015, at 16:50, Maximilian Wilhelm wrote:
> > >> >> > > I'm not sure I understand how this would work- are we going to 
> > >> >> > > pin down the ifindex for some subset of interfaces?
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > I'm not sure what your idea is, but I guess we might mean the same
> > >> >> > thing:
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > What I have in mind is that the user can supply a list of (ifname ->
> > >> >> > ifindex) entries via a sysfs/procfs interface and if such a list is
> > >> >> > present, the kernel will search the list for every ifname which is
> > >> >> > registered and check if there is an entry. If there is, the ifindex
> > >> >> > for this entry is used. If there is no entry found for the given
> > >> >> > ifname, the usual algorithm is used (therefore inherently providing
> > >> >> > backward compatibility).
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Sorry to ask because I don't like this feature at all. There was a lot
> > >> >> of work on stable interface names. Why do you need stable ifindexes,
> > >> >> which were never meant to be stable for a longer amount of time?
> > >> > 
> > >> > Also current versions of SNMP provide more useful information about
> > >> > network interface slot information in ifDescription
> > >> 
> > >> Well if they do provide strings, then that is probably a better way
> > >> forward than messing with the kernel.
> > > 
> > > It gives strings based on PCI information but nothing useful
> > > on tunnels.
> > 
> > But at least in theory, that could be extended to do so right?
> 
> I had several snmp installations with net-snmp and munin, cacti and so
> on and all had the interface name in ifDescription already some years
> back.

In net-snmp 5.7 or later ifDescr is set to result of pci_lookup_name
(by default).

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-01 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-01 12:04 [RFC] Stable interface index option Maximilian Wilhelm
2015-12-01 15:34 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-01 15:50   ` Maximilian Wilhelm
2015-12-01 16:02     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-01 16:06       ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-01 19:28         ` David Miller
2015-12-01 20:20           ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-01 20:57             ` David Miller
2015-12-01 21:06               ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-01 21:14               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-01 21:44                 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2015-12-01 21:54                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-01 22:31                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-01 19:27       ` David Miller
2015-12-01 20:26         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-01 22:43           ` Maximilian Wilhelm
2015-12-01 23:58             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-02  1:41               ` Andrew Lunn
2015-12-02 11:03               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-01 16:11     ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-01 16:10 Maximilian Wilhelm

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