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From: "Stefan Berger" <stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen
	<jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] Implement driver for supporting multiple emulated TPMs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 07:17:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201601271217.u0RCHRPe017929@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160127023603.GA23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>


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Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote on 01/26/2016 
09:36:03 PM:

> 
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:39:09AM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> > > Presumably some namespace magic can be used to make them show up as
> > > tpm0 in a container?
> > 
> > The magic is to have the container management stack create the device 
pair.
> > From the ioctl it learns the name of the devices that were created
> and it then
> > finds out about the major/minor number of the created device and 
> have /dev/tpm0
> > with that major/minor created in the container's /dev directory.
> 
> Is the device created before container launched? I would assume that
> this would work user space accesses through /dev/tpm0.

Yes, device would be created before container is launched.

> 
> I don't know how this would work for kernel clients.

For IMA we have these additional ioctls to either 'reserve' a vTPM for a 
container before clone() or to hook the vTPM up to a IMA namespace after 
clone() -- you may have read the discussions about these in other emails. 
As for trusted and encrypted keys and the TPM based RNG, the kernel 
determines the current IMA namespace a process that wants to use the 
kernel service is associated with. It then uses the TPM associated with 
the IMA namespace or returns an error if there is none.

   Stefan

> 
> /Jarkko
> 



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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-14 16:01 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multi-instance vTPM driver Stefan Berger
     [not found] ` <1452787318-29610-1-git-send-email-stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] New flags for TPM chip avoiding filesystem registrations Stefan Berger
     [not found]     ` <1452787318-29610-2-git-send-email-stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  8:07       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Allow to provide a name pattern of the device Stefan Berger
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] Implement driver for supporting multiple emulated TPMs Stefan Berger
     [not found]     ` <1452787318-29610-4-git-send-email-stefanb-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20160119235107.GA4307-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 14:39           ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]             ` <201601201439.u0KEdGB9031710-YREtIfBy6dDImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  2:36               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                 ` <20160127023603.GA23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 12:17                   ` Stefan Berger [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <201601271217.u0RCHQIX004914@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201601271217.u0RCHQIX004914-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 14:22                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                       ` <20160127142239.GA3756-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 18:24                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20160127182448.GA31680-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 21:13                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-27 22:38                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                 ` <201601271217.u0RCHQkf003637@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201601271217.u0RCHQkf003637-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 17:35                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <201601201439.u0KEdFao027907@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]           ` <201601201439.u0KEdFao027907-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  1:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20160121011701.GA20361-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  3:01                 ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                   ` <201601210301.u0L31hLD018933-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  2:50                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                       ` <20160127025057.GB23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 12:20                         ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                       ` <201601271220.u0RCKpEG016626@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                         ` <201601271220.u0RCKpEG016626-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 14:23                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]               ` <201601210301.u0L31h5r012187@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                 ` <201601210301.u0L31h5r012187-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  3:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20160121032115.GA26266-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21  3:56                       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                     ` <201601210356.u0L3uP1n029818@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                       ` <201601210356.u0L3uP1n029818-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 17:42                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20160121174243.GD3064-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 19:02                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                           ` <201601211902.u0LJ2LbL001130@d03av01.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                             ` <201601211902.u0LJ2LbL001130-Rn83F4s8Lwc+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 19:30                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20160121193049.GA31938-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 21:51                                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                 ` <201601212151.u0LLpC93021986@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <201601212151.u0LLpC93021986-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-21 22:10                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                       ` <20160121221040.GA1630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 12:01                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-22 15:09                                         ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                           ` <56A2461C.7030607-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 18:10                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                               ` <20160125181046.GB28108-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  1:05                                                 ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-26  1:46                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                   ` <20160126014652.GB10732-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  3:19                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                       ` <20160126031919.GA24217-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 13:56                                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                           ` <20160126135658.GA6813-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 17:58                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                               ` <20160126175816.GA17937-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27  2:06                                                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20160127020617.GB22703-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 19:48                                                                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                               ` <201601260105.u0Q15IWW028777@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                 ` <201601260105.u0Q15IWW028777-2xHzGjyANq4+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  3:46                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20160126034632.GB24217-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 14:21                                                       ` Stefan Berger
2016-02-02 19:22                                                       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                     ` <201601261421.u0QELnI3002626@d01av02.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <201601261421.u0QELnI3002626-prK0F/7GlgzImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 18:22                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <20160126182248.GB17937-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26 23:22                                                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                           ` <201601262322.u0QNMo1r022303@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                             ` <201601262322.u0QNMo1r022303-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 18:21                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-01-27  3:13                                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]                                           ` <20160127031320.GC23863-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 12:42                                             ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                           ` <201601271242.u0RCgM0E031875@d03av05.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                             ` <201601271242.u0RCgM0E031875-3MP/CPU4Muo+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 17:58                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                 ` <20160127175839.GA31038-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 21:58                                                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                 ` <201601272158.u0RLwvIK005533@d01av01.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                   ` <201601272158.u0RLwvIK005533-4ZtxiNBBw+3ImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 22:25                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                       ` <20160127222534.GB5520-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 22:55                                                         ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                                                       ` <201601272255.u0RMtuqY014120@d03av02.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <201601272255.u0RMtuqY014120-nNA/7dmquNI+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-27 23:33                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-01-14 16:01   ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] A test program for vTPM device creation Stefan Berger
2016-01-15 10:11   ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Multi-instance vTPM driver Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <20160115101146.GA11987-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 13:02       ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]     ` <201601151302.u0FD2wGG003518@d03av03.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]       ` <201601151302.u0FD2wGG003518-MijUUJkLaQs+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-25 23:15         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]           ` <20160125231532.GA10732-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  0:28             ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-26  0:29             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]           ` <201601260029.u0Q0T7Ek004865@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]             ` <201601260029.u0Q0T7Ek004865-2xHzGjyANq4+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-26  1:48               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-01-19 17:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20160119174400.GA7616-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 17:53       ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-19 22:59       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
     [not found]     ` <201601191753.u0JHrku2031608@d01av01.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]       ` <201601191753.u0JHrku2031608-4ZtxiNBBw+3ImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 18:08         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <20160119180802.GA8038-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 18:18             ` Stefan Berger
2016-01-19 22:14             ` Mimi Zohar
     [not found]               ` <1453241668.2673.31.camel-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 22:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20160119224851.GA31745-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:05                     ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]           ` <201601191818.u0JIIExQ010843@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com>
     [not found]             ` <201601191818.u0JIIExQ010843-2xHzGjyANq4+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:04               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20160119230456.GB31745-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:15                   ` Stefan Berger
     [not found]                     ` <201601192315.u0JNFFG6030371-Rn83F4s8Lwc+UXBhvPuGgqsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 15:40                       ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]                 ` <201601192315.u0JNFGkm029862@d01av04.pok.ibm.com>
     [not found]                   ` <201601192315.u0JNFGkm029862-YREtIfBy6dDImUpY6SP3GEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 23:42                     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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