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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@unitn.it>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 5/8] Track the "total rq utilisation" too
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:06:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160129150605.GA2906@worktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160115101511.726cfe29@luca-1225C>

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:15:11AM +0100, Luca Abeni wrote:

> There is also a newer paper, that will be published at ACM SAC 2016
> (so, it is not available yet), but is based on this technical report:
> http://arxiv.org/abs/1512.01984
> This second paper describes some more complex algorithms (easily
> implementable over this patchset) that are able to guarantee hard
> schedulability for SCHED_DEADLINE tasks with reclaiming on SMP.

So I finally got around to reading the relevant sections of that paper
(5.1 and 5.2).

The paper introduces two alternatives;

 - parallel reclaim (5.1)
 - sequential reclaim (5.2)

The parent patch introduces the accounting required for sequential
reclaiming IIUC.

Thinking about things however, I think I would prefer parallel reclaim
over sequential reclaim. The problem I see with sequential reclaim is
that under light load jobs might land on different CPUs and not benefit
from reclaim (as much) since the 'spare' bandwidth is stuck on other
CPUs.

Now I suppose the exact conditions to hit that worst case might be quite
hard to trigger, in which case it might just not matter in practical
terms.

But maybe I'm mistaken, the paper doesn't seem to compare the two
approaches in this way.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-29 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-14 15:24 [RFC 0/8] CPU reclaiming for SCHED_DEADLINE Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 1/8] Track the active utilisation Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 16:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  6:37     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:07     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 2/8] Correctly track the active utilisation for migrating tasks Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 3/8] sched/deadline: add some tracepoints Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 4/8] Improve the tracking of active utilisation Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 17:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  6:48     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:27     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-19 12:20     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-19 13:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 13:36         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-27 14:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 14:45             ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-28 13:08               ` Vincent Guittot
     [not found]               ` <CAKfTPtAt0gTwk9aAZN238NT1O-zJvxVQDTh2QN_KxAnE61xMww@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-28 13:48                 ` luca abeni
2016-01-28 13:56                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-01-28 11:14             ` luca abeni
2016-01-28 12:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-28 13:41                 ` luca abeni
2016-01-28 14:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-28 21:15                     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:10     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 5/8] Track the "total rq utilisation" too Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:04     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  6:50     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:15         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-29 15:06           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-01-29 21:21             ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 6/8] GRUB accounting Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:05     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 7/8] Make GRUB a task's flag Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:15     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:08         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 15:24 ` [RFC 8/8] Do not reclaim the whole CPU bandwidth Luca Abeni
2016-01-14 19:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  8:21     ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-15  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-15  9:49         ` Luca Abeni
2016-01-26 12:52         ` luca abeni
2016-01-27 14:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-02 20:53             ` Luca Abeni
2016-02-03 11:30               ` Juri Lelli
2016-02-03 13:28                 ` luca abeni
2016-01-19 10:11 ` [RFC 0/8] CPU reclaiming for SCHED_DEADLINE Juri Lelli
2016-01-19 11:50   ` Luca Abeni

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