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From: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:53:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202185341.GA10496@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160202184134.GA18486@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 11:41:34AM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 12:17:23PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Tue 02-02-16 08:47:30, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > On Sat 30-01-16 00:28:33, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:28:15AM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> > > > > > I guess I need to go off and understand if we can have DAX mappings on such a
> > > > > > device.  If we can, we may have a problem - we can get the block_device from
> > > > > > get_block() in I/O path and the various fault paths, but we don't have access
> > > > > > to get_block() when flushing via dax_writeback_mapping_range().  We avoid
> > > > > > needing it the normal case by storing the sector results from get_block() in
> > > > > > the radix tree.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think we're doing it wrong by storing the sector in the radix tree; we'd
> > > > > really need to store both the sector and the bdev which is too much data.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If we store the PFN of the underlying page instead, we don't have this
> > > > > problem.  Instead, we have a different problem; of the device going
> > > > > away under us.  I'm trying to find the code which tears down PTEs when
> > > > > the device goes away, and I'm not seeing it.  What do we do about user
> > > > > mappings of the device?
> > > > 
> > > > So I don't have a strong opinion whether storing PFN or sector is better.
> > > > Maybe PFN is somewhat more generic but OTOH turning DAX off for special
> > > > cases like inodes on XFS RT devices would be IMHO fine.
> > > 
> > > We need to support alternate devices.
> > > 
> > > There is a strong case for using the XFS RT device with DAX,
> > > especially for applications that know they are going to always use
> > > large/huge/giant pages to access their data files. The XFS RT device
> > > can guarantee allocation is always aligned to large/huge/giant page
> > > constraints right up to ENOSPC and throughout the production life of
> > > the filesystem. We have no other filesystem capable of providing
> > > such guarantees, which means the XFS RT device is uniquely suited to
> > > certain aplications with DAX...
> > 
> > I see, thanks for explanation. So I'm OK with changing what is stored in
> > the radix tree to accommodate this use case but my reservation that we IHMO
> > have other more pressing things to fix remains...
> 
> IMO this is pretty pressing - without it neither XFS RT devices nor DAX raw
> block devices work.  The case has been made above for XFS RT devices, and with
> DAX raw block devices we really need a fix because the current code will cause
> a kernel BUG when a user tries to fsync/msync a raw block device mmap().  This
> is especially bad because, unlike with filesystems where you mount with the
> dax mount option, there is no opt-in step for raw block devices.
> 
> This has to be fixed - it seems like we either figure out how to fix DAX
> fsync, or we have to disable DAX on raw block devices for a kernel cycle.  I'm
> hoping for the former. :)

Well, I guess a third option would be to keep DAX raw block device in and just
take this patch as a temporary fix:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/1/28/679

This would leave XFS RT broken, though, so we may want to explicitly disable
DAX + XFS RT configs for now, but at least we wouldn't have the raw block
device kernel BUG.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 19:35 [PATCH 1/2] block: fix pfn_mkwrite() DAX fault handler Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] dax: fix bdev NULL pointer dereferences Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 19:35   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-28 20:21   ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 20:21     ` Dan Williams
2016-01-28 21:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-29 18:28     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-29 23:34       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-30  0:18         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 22:44         ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-30  5:28       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-30  6:01         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-30  7:08           ` Jared Hulbert
2016-01-31  2:32           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31  6:12             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-01-31 10:55               ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 16:38                 ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:07                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:18                     ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 18:27                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-01-31 18:50                         ` Dan Williams
2016-01-31 19:51                     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-01 13:44             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 14:51         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-01 20:49           ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-01 21:47           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02  6:06             ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02  6:46               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02  8:05                 ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 16:51                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 21:46                     ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-03  0:34                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03  1:21                         ` Jared Hulbert
2016-02-02 11:17             ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 16:33               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 16:46                 ` Jan Kara
2016-02-02 17:10                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:34                     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 17:46                       ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 17:47                         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 18:24                           ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:46                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-02 18:59                           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-02 20:14                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2016-02-03 11:09                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 10:46                       ` Jan Kara
2016-02-03 20:13                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04  9:15                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 23:38                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:15                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07  5:27                               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 19:56                         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-04 20:29                           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-04 22:19                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-05 22:25                             ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-06 23:40                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-07  6:43                                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-08 13:48                                   ` Jan Kara
2016-02-07  8:38                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-08 15:55                                 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:41               ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02 18:53                 ` Ross Zwisler [this message]
2016-02-02  0:02     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-02  7:10       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-02 10:34       ` Jan Kara

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