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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@imgtec.com>,
	"David Daney" <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>,
	"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
	"Ralf Baechle" <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] mips: Fix arch_spin_unlock()
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 19:03:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203190307.GB15852@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160203133210.GC20217@arm.com>

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 01:32:10PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 09:33:39AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > In fact I'd suggest to test this via a quick runtime hack like this in rcupdate.h:
> > 
> > 	extern int panic_timeout;
> > 
> > 	...
> > 
> > 	if (panic_timeout)
> > 		smp_load_acquire(p);
> > 	else
> > 		typeof(*p) *________p1 = (typeof(*p) *__force)lockless_dereference(p);
> > 
> > (or so)
> 
> So the problem with this is that a LOAD <ctrl> LOAD sequence isn't an
> ordering hazard on ARM, so you're potentially at the mercy of the branch
> predictor as to whether you get an acquire. That's not to say it won't
> be discarded as soon as the conditional is resolved, but it could
> screw up the benchmarking.
> 
> I'd be better off doing some runtime patching, but that's not something
> I can knock up in a couple of minutes (so I'll add it to my list).

... so I actually got that up and running, believe it or not. Filthy stuff.

The good news is that you're right, and I'm now seeing ~1% difference
between the runs with ~0.3% noise for either of them. I still think
that's significant, but it's a lot more reassuring than 4%.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-12 12:31 [RFC][PATCH] mips: Fix arch_spin_unlock() Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 12:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 13:31 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-12 14:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 14:50   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-12 14:59     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-11-12 17:46 ` David Daney
2015-11-12 18:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-11-12 18:13   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-12 18:17     ` David Daney
2016-01-27  9:57       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-27 11:43         ` Will Deacon
2016-01-27 12:41           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2016-01-28  1:11             ` Boqun Feng
2016-01-27 14:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-01-27 15:21             ` Will Deacon
2016-01-27 23:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-28  9:57                 ` Will Deacon
2016-01-28 22:31                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-01-29  9:59                     ` Will Deacon
2016-01-29 10:22                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-01 13:56                         ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02  3:54                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02  5:19                             ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02  6:44                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02  8:07                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02  8:19                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02  9:34                                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 17:30                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 17:51                                         ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 18:06                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 19:30                                             ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 19:55                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-03 19:13                                                 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-03  8:33                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 13:32                                                 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-03 19:03                                                   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-02-09 11:23                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-09 11:42                                                       ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 12:02                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 17:56                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-02 22:30                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 14:49                                     ` Ralf Baechle
2016-02-02 14:54                                       ` Måns Rullgård
2016-02-02 14:58                                         ` Ralf Baechle
2016-02-02 15:51                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2016-02-02 17:23                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-02 22:38                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 11:45                               ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 12:12                                 ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 12:20                                   ` Will Deacon
2016-02-02 13:18                                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-02 17:12                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-02 17:37                                       ` Will Deacon

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