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From: Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Dick Kennedy <dick.kennedy@avagotech.com>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Separate target visibility from reaped state information
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 23:38:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203233816.00004da7@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454413585.2349.11.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 19:43 -0800, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > On 01/19/16 17:03, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 19:30 -0500, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > "Bart" == Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>
> > > > > > > > > writes:
> > > > 
> > > > Bart> Instead of representing the states "visible in sysfs" and
> > > > "has
> > > > Bart> been removed from the target list" by a single state
> > > > variable,
> > > > use
> > > > Bart> two variables to represent this information.
> > > > 
> > > > James: Are you happy with the latest iteration of this? Should I
> > > > queue
> > > > it?
> > > 
> > > Well, I'm OK with the patch: it's a simple transformation of the
> > > enumerated state to a two bit state.  What I can't see is how it
> > > fixes
> > > any soft lockup.
> > > 
> > > The only change from the current workflow is that the DEL
> > > transition
> > > (now the reaped flag) is done before the spin lock is dropped which
> > > would fix a tiny window for two threads both trying to remove the
> > > same
> > > target, but there's nothing that could possibly fix an iterative
> > > soft
> > > lockup caused by restarting the loop, which is what the changelog
> > > says.
> > 
> > Hello James,
> > 
> > scsi_remove_target() doesn't lock the scan_mutex which means that 
> > concurrent SCSI scanning activity is not prohibited. Such scanning 
> > activity can postpone the transition of the state of a SCSI target 
> > into STARGET_DEL. I think if the scheduler decides to run the thread 
> > that executes scsi_remove_target() on the same CPU as the scanning 
> > code after the scanning code has obtained a reap ref and before the 
> > scanning code has released the reap ref again that the soft lockup 
> > can be triggered that has been reported by Sebastian Herbszt.
> 
> OK, I finally understand the scenario;  I'm not sure I understand how
> we're getting concurrent scanning and removal from a simple rmmod ... I
> take it this is insmod rmmod in a tight loop?

I am able to trigger the soft lockup with this test case run once:

modprobe lpfc
run fio for 10 seconds
rmmod lpfc

My test setup involves running qla2xxx in target mode (SCST) and
lpfc as initiator on the same system with one exported volume.

Dick, how did you trigger the lockup?

Sebastian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-08 16:51 [PATCH] Separate target visibility from reaped state information Bart Van Assche
2016-01-18  8:55 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2016-01-20  0:30 ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-01-20  1:03   ` James Bottomley
2016-01-31 17:54     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2016-02-02  1:11       ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-02-02  9:03         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2016-02-03 17:17         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-03 17:54           ` James Bottomley
2016-02-03 21:37         ` *** GMX Spamverdacht *** " Sebastian Herbszt
2016-02-07 22:48         ` Sebastian Herbszt
2016-02-02  3:43     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-02-02 11:46       ` James Bottomley
2016-02-02 18:29         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-02-03  0:43           ` James Bottomley
2016-02-03  1:17             ` Bart Van Assche
2016-02-03  2:01               ` James Bottomley
2016-02-03 22:38         ` Sebastian Herbszt [this message]
2016-02-03 22:55           ` James Bottomley
2016-02-03 23:28             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2016-02-07 22:56             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2016-02-10 14:05           ` Johannes Thumshirn
2016-02-10 15:34             ` James Bottomley
2016-02-10 16:06               ` Johannes Thumshirn

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