From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jiri Pirko Subject: Re: [patch net-next 3/9] mlx4: Implement port type setting via devlink interface Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:04:58 +0100 Message-ID: <20160223160458.GM2140@nanopsycho.orion> References: <1456165924-14399-1-git-send-email-jiri@resnulli.us> <1456165924-14399-4-git-send-email-jiri@resnulli.us> <56CC41C8.10802@stressinduktion.org> <20160223122109.GD2140@nanopsycho.orion> <56CC5E65.40809@stressinduktion.org> <20160223142626.GF2140@nanopsycho.orion> <56CC77BB.60601@stressinduktion.org> <20160223153023.GJ2140@nanopsycho.orion> <56CC815D.9070009@stressinduktion.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, idosch@mellanox.com, eladr@mellanox.com, yotamg@mellanox.com, ogerlitz@mellanox.com, yishaih@mellanox.com, dledford@redhat.com, sean.hefty@intel.com, hal.rosenstock@gmail.com, eugenia@mellanox.com, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com, hadarh@mellanox.com, jhs@mojatatu.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com, jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com, brouer@redhat.com, ivecera@redhat.com, rami.rosen@intel.com To: Hannes Frederic Sowa Return-path: Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:32814 "EHLO mail-wm0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752374AbcBWQFB (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:05:01 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id g62so207611489wme.0 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:05:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56CC815D.9070009@stressinduktion.org> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:57:17PM CET, hannes@stressinduktion.org wrote: >On 23.02.2016 16:30, Jiri Pirko wrote: >>Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:16:11PM CET, hannes@stressinduktion.org wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>1) is easily solvable, just drop the ifindex style attributes and always >>>>>force the user to enter the bus and bus-topology id. >>>> >>>>But why? Use can easily get that info and map it to devlink index. It >>>>aligns with nl80211 iface. >>>> >>>>Do you really want to do commands like: >>>>myhost:~$ dl dev show pci_0000:01:00.0 >>>>? >>> >>>Yes, exactly I would. I would put them into a boot-up script based on my >>>system configuration and can be sure it will work the next boot, too, and >>>adapt them when I replace the hardware or do some configuration changes. >>> >>>I think sysadmins or scripts are the primary users of this interface not >>>kernel developers which switch their settings around all the time, no? >> >>I can easily add this to the userspace tool to accept "pci_0000:01:00.0" >>format and to map it internally to devlink index. No problem. > >I argue for this stable topology identifier to be the default. Especially if >you add device info before the actual module is loaded (this is during >initramfs, when udev cannot rename devlink names to stable ones), a user has >to deal with pre-devlink-ids before rename and after. Do you have plans how >to address that? You can still access devlink using pci_addr using dl. I don't see a problem. > >Current initramfs for stable interface names uses EUI48 based mac addresses >most of the time and udev runs then after the pivot_root. > >The devlink names can easily be aliases in user space. I don't want to store them anywhere. I just use "dl" tool and pass the name there. > >Bye, >Hannes > >