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From: Marc Haber <mh+linux-btrfs@zugschlus.de>
To: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:42:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160307084235.GB6939@torres.zugschlus.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtSyKgs4ki_dEraofWJtXzN5ecUSFCHjrGF5vyFNJzFY0g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 01:27:10PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Marc said it was created maybe 2 years ago and doesn't remember what
> version of the tools were used. Between it being two years ago and
> also being Debian, for all we know it could've been 0.19. *shrug*

You are mixing up Debian unstable and Debian stable *snort*. You're
lucky that I'm not on RHEL 6[1].

> On the one hand, the practical advice is to just blow it away and use
> everything current, go back to the same workload including thousands
> of snapshots, and see if this balance problem is reproducible. That's
> pretty clearly a bug.

To have the same thing happen in half a year again? That's not why I
converted to a snapshottable file system.

> On the other hand, we're approaching the state with Btrfs where the
> problems we're seeing are at least as much about aging file systems,
> because the stability is permitting file systems to get older.

And this is really something to be proud of? I mean, this is a file
system that is part of the vanilla linux kernel, not marked as
experimental or something, and you're still concerned about file
systems that were made a year ago? This is a new experience for me.

>  As they get older though, the issues get more non-deterministic. So
>  it's an interesting bug from that perspective, the current kernel
>  code ought to be able to contend with this (as in, the user is right
>  to expect the code to deal with this scenario, and if it doesn't it's
>  a bug; not that I expect today's code to actually do this).

Kernel 4.4.4 as of the day before yesterday, thanks for considering.

> So if it were me, I'd gather all possible data, including complete,
> not trimmed, logs.

So you seriously want all messages like
Mar  7 09:25:23 fan systemd[1]: Started http per-connection Server, forwarding to 3142 ([2a01:238:4071:328d:5054:ff:fea9:6807]:41060).
Mar  7 09:25:23 fan named[3000]: client 2a01:238:4071:328d:5054:ff:fea9:6807#59920 (debian.debian.zugschlus.de): query: debian.debian.zugschlus.de IN AAAA + (fec0:0:0:ffff::1)
Mar  7 09:21:34 fan dhcpd[2468]: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.182.29 from 54:04:a6:82:21:00 via eth0: unknown lease 192.168.182.29.
Mar  7 09:17:01 fan CRON[19474]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
Mar  7 09:18:06 fan systemd[1]: Started Session c101 of user mh.
Mar  7 08:21:40 fan smartd[1956]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 31 to 30

I _can_ swamp the bug report literally with gigabytes of logs, but is
that really what you want? If it is not, please state what you mean by
"not trimmed" as I only removed those clutter messages from the logs I
sent.

Greetings
Marc

[1] Does RHEL 6 have btrfs in the first place?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-27 21:14 Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work Marc Haber
2016-02-27 23:15 ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-02-28  0:08   ` Marc Haber
2016-02-28  0:22     ` Hugo Mills
2016-02-28  8:40       ` Marc Haber
2016-02-29  1:56 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-29 15:33   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-01  0:45     ` Qu Wenruo
     [not found]       ` <20160301065448.GJ2334@torres.zugschlus.de>
2016-03-01  7:24         ` Qu Wenruo
2016-03-01  8:13           ` Qu Wenruo
     [not found]             ` <20160301161659.GR2334@torres.zugschlus.de>
2016-03-03  2:02               ` Qu Wenruo
2016-03-01 20:51           ` Duncan
2016-03-05 14:28             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-03  0:28 ` Dāvis Mosāns
2016-03-03  3:42   ` Qu Wenruo
2016-03-03  4:57   ` Duncan
2016-03-03 15:39     ` Dāvis Mosāns
2016-03-04 12:31       ` Duncan
2016-03-04 12:35         ` Hugo Mills
2016-03-27 12:10         ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-03-27 23:12           ` Duncan
2016-03-05 14:39   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-05 19:34     ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-05 20:09       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-06  6:43         ` Duncan
2016-03-06 20:27           ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-06 20:37             ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07  8:47               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07  8:42             ` Marc Haber [this message]
2016-03-07 18:39               ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07 18:56                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-07 19:07                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07 19:33                   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-12 21:36                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07 19:44               ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07 20:43                 ` Duncan
2016-03-07 22:44                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-12 21:30             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07  8:30           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07 20:07             ` Duncan
2016-03-07  8:56         ` Marc Haber
2016-03-12 19:57       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 19:43         ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-13 20:50           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 21:31             ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-12 21:14       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 11:58       ` New file system with same issue (was: Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work) Marc Haber
2016-03-13 13:17         ` Andrew Vaughan
2016-03-13 16:56           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 17:12         ` Duncan
2016-03-13 21:05           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14  1:05             ` Duncan
2016-03-14 11:49               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 19:14         ` Henk Slager
2016-03-13 19:42           ` Henk Slager
2016-03-13 20:56           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14  0:00             ` Henk Slager
2016-03-15  7:20               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14 12:07         ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14 12:48           ` New file system with same issue Holger Hoffstätte
2016-03-14 20:13             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 10:52               ` Holger Hoffstätte
2016-03-15 13:46                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 13:54                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-15 14:09                     ` Marc Haber
2016-03-17  1:17               ` A good "Boot Maintenance" scheme (WAS: New file system with same issue) Robert White
2016-03-14 13:46           ` New file system with same issue (was: Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work) Henk Slager
2016-03-14 20:05             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14 20:39               ` Henk Slager
2016-03-14 21:59                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-14 23:22                   ` Henk Slager
2016-03-15  7:16                     ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 12:15                       ` Henk Slager
2016-03-15 13:24                         ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15  7:07                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-27 12:15                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-03-15 13:29               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 13:42                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 16:54                   ` Henk Slager
2016-03-27  8:41 ` Current state of old filesystem " Marc Haber
2016-04-01 13:59 ` Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work Marc Haber

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