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From: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v4 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:34:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160316103431.GM5220@X58A-UD3R> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160316075605.GE3217@swordfish>

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 04:56:05PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (03/16/16 16:30), Byungchul Park wrote:
> >
> > Do you mean the wake_up_process() in console_unlock?
> 
> no, I meant wake_up_process(printk_kthread), the newly added one.

I got it. You are talking about wake_up_process() in Petr's patch.

> 
> 
> -- if we are going to have wake_up_process() in wake_up_klogd_work_func(),
> then we need `in_sched' message to potentially trigger a recursion chain
> 
> wake_up_klogd_work_func()->wake_up_process()->printk()->wake_up_process()->printk()...
> 
> to break this printk()->wake_up_process()->printk(), we need wake_up_process() to
> be under the logbuf lock; so vprintk_emit()'s if (logbuf_cpu == this_cpu) will act.

I am curious about how you make the wake_up_process() call and I may want
to talk about it at the next spin. Anyway, then we will lose the last
message when "if (logbuf_cpu == this_cpu)" acts. Is it acceptible?

IMHO it's not a good choice to use wake_up() and friend within a printk()
since it can additionally cause another recursion. Of course, it does not
happen if the condition (logbuf_cpu == this_cpu) acts. But I don't think
it's good to rely on the condition with losing a message. Anyway I really
really want to see your next spin and talk.

> 
> 
> -- if we are going to have wake_up_process() in console_unlock(), then
> 
> console_unlock()->{up(), wake_up_process()}->printk()->{console_lock(), console_unlock()}->{up(), wake_up_process()}->printk()...
> 

This cannot happen. console_lock() cannot continue because the prior
console_unlock() does not release console_sem.lock yet when
wake_up_process() is called. Only a deadlock exists. And my patch solves
the problem so that the deadlock cannot happen.

My patch is https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/11/192 as you already know.

> is undetectable... by the time console_unlock() calls wake_up_process() there
> are no printk() locks that this CPU owns.
> 
> 
> > I said they should be kept *out of* the critical section. :-)
> > Otherwise, it can recurse us forever.
> 
> can you explain?

Sorry. I was confused. I was wrong.

> 
> 	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-16 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-14 14:13 [RFC][PATCH v4 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 14:13 ` [RFC][PATCH v4 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 10:03   ` Jan Kara
2016-03-15 14:07     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-16  5:39       ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-16  6:58         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-16  7:30           ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-16  7:56             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-16 10:34               ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2016-03-17  0:34                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  5:49                   ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-18  7:11                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-18  8:23                       ` byungchul.park
2016-03-16  7:00         ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-16  7:07           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-15 15:58   ` Petr Mladek
2016-03-16  2:01     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-16  2:10       ` Byungchul Park
2016-03-16  2:31         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-14 14:13 ` [RFC][PATCH v4 2/2] printk: Skip messages on oops Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-17 10:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-23 19:36 ` [RFC][PATCH v4 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Pavel Machek
2016-04-24  5:03   ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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