From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932471AbcDAKzI (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:55:08 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:55980 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932450AbcDAKzE (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Apr 2016 06:55:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 12:54:57 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Will Deacon Cc: Waiman Long , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Scott J Norton , Douglas Hatch Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/qrwlock: Allow multiple spinning readers Message-ID: <20160401105457.GO3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1458444079-59601-1-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hpe.com> <20160329202050.GN3408@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <56FDA0D6.4090904@hpe.com> <20160401103143.GJ3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160401104119.GA3604@arm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160401104119.GA3604@arm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 11:41:19AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 12:31:43PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 06:12:38PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote: > > > >>However, if we allow a limited number of readers to spin on the > > > >>lock simultaneously, we can eliminates some of the reader-to-reader > > > >>latencies at the expense of a bit more cacheline contention and > > > >>probably more power consumption. > > > >So the embedded people might not like that much. > > > > > > It could be. It is always a compromise. > > > > So ARM is the only one that currently waits without spinning and could > > care; so Will might have an opinion. One 'solution' would be to make > > this an optional feature. > > Well, perhaps we could built this using the cmp-and-wait structure we spoke > about a couple of months back. What happened with that? Is there something I > need to go implement for ARM/arm64? Ah, yes, I forgot about that. Lemme go find that discussions and see what I can do there.