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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1.9 00/14] livepatch: hybrid consistency model
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:39:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160401133944.GQ5522@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1458933243.git.jpoimboe@redhat.com>

On Fri 2016-03-25 14:34:47, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> These patches are still a work in progress, but Jiri asked that I share
> them before I go on vacation next week.  Based on origin/master because
> it has CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION.

I have to follow Mirek and say that it is a great work.

> There's also a func->immediate flag which allows users to specify that
> certain functions in the patch can be applied without per-task
> consistency.  This might be useful if you want to patch a common
> function like schedule(), and the function change doesn't need
> consistency but the rest of the patch does.

I like the possibility to immediately patch some functions or objects.
Just note that this is not yet completely implemented and it is not
on the TODO list.

We probably should not set func->transition flag when func->immediate
is set or when the related func->object is set. It currently happens
only when patch->immediate is set.

Also we should ignore immediate functions and objects when the stack
is checked.


> Still have a lot of TODOs, some of them are listed here.  If you see
> something objectionable, it might be a good idea to make sure it's not
> already on the TODO list :-)
> 
> TODO:
> - come up with a better name than universe?  KLP_STATE_PREV/NEXT?
>   KLP_UNPATCHED/PATCHED?  there were some objections to the name in v1.

The name "universe" has an advantage if we later allow to
enable/disable more patches in parallel. The integer might hold
an identifier of the last applied patch. I have been playing with
this for kGraft one year ago and it was really challenging.
We should avoid it if possible. It is not really needed
if we are able to complete any transition in a reasonable time.

If we support only one transition at a time, a simple boolean
or even bit should be enough. The most descriptive name would
be klp_transition_patch_applied but it is quite long.

Note that similar information is provided by TIF_KLP_NEED_UPDATE
flag. We use only this bit in kGraft. It saves some space in
task_struct but it brings other challenges. We need to prevent
migration using a global "kgr_immutable" flag until ftrace handlers
for all patched functions are in place. We need to set the flag
back when the ftrace handler is called and the global "kgr_immutable"
flag is set.

> - update documentation for sysfs, proc, livepatch

Also we should publish somewhere the information about TIF_KLP_NEED_UPDATE
flag, e.g. /proc/<pid>/klp_need_update. It is handy to see what
process blocks the transition. We have something similar in
kGraft, see in_progress_show() at
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/jirislaby/kgraft.git/commit/?h=kgraft-4.4&id=1c82fbd7b1fe240f4ed178a6506a93033f6a4bed


I am still shaking my head around the patches.

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-01 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-25 19:34 [RFC PATCH v1.9 00/14] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 01/14] x86/asm/head: cleanup initial stack variable Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 02/14] x86/asm/head: use a common function for starting CPUs Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 03/14] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 04/14] x86: move _stext marker before head code Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 05/14] sched: horrible way to detect whether a task has been preempted Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-06 13:06   ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-06 16:33     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-07  9:47       ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-07 14:34         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-08  8:07           ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-08 14:34             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-07 21:15   ` Jessica Yu
2016-04-07 21:37     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-07 22:35       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-07 22:53         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-07 23:15       ` Jessica Yu
2016-04-08  7:05         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-08  8:03           ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-08 14:31             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-11  8:38               ` Petr Mladek
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 06/14] x86: add error handling to dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 07/14] x86/stacktrace: add function for detecting reliable stack traces Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-31 13:03   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-04 17:54     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-11 14:16       ` Jiri Slaby
2016-04-12 15:56         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-09  8:31           ` Jiri Slaby
2016-06-13 21:58             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-01 20:28               ` Jiri Slaby
2016-12-01 20:59                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-17 13:08                   ` Jiri Slaby
2016-04-04 15:55   ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-04 17:58     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-07 11:55   ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-07 14:46     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-08  8:24       ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-11  3:29   ` Jessica Yu
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 08/14] livepatch: separate enabled and patched states Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-11  3:31   ` Jessica Yu
2016-04-12 14:44   ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 08/14] " Chris J Arges
2016-04-12 17:16     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-12 17:35       ` Chris J Arges
2016-04-12 18:25         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 09/14] livepatch: remove unnecessary object loaded check Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 10/14] livepatch: move patching functions into patch.c Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 11/14] livepatch: store function sizes Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:34 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 12/14] livepatch: create per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-31 13:12   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-04 18:21     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-04 18:27       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2016-04-04 18:33         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-05 11:36           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2016-04-05 13:53             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-05 17:32   ` Minfei Huang
2016-04-05 21:17     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-14  9:25   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-14 16:39     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-15  9:17       ` Miroslav Benes
2016-03-25 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 13/14] livepatch: add /proc/<pid>/patch_status Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-31  9:33   ` Jiri Slaby
2016-03-31  9:40     ` Jiri Slaby
2016-04-04 16:56     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-25 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 14/14] livepatch: update task universe when exiting kernel Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-14  8:47   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-14  8:50     ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-14 13:39       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-18 15:01         ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] s390/klp: s390 support Miroslav Benes
2016-04-18 15:01           ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] s390: livepatch, reorganize TIF bits Miroslav Benes
2016-04-18 15:01           ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] s390/klp: update task universe when exiting kernel Miroslav Benes
2016-04-18 15:17           ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] s390/klp: s390 support Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-14 13:23     ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 14/14] livepatch: update task universe when exiting kernel Josh Poimboeuf
2016-03-31 12:54 ` [RFC PATCH v1.9 00/14] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Miroslav Benes
2016-04-04 17:03   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-05 14:24     ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-05 14:34       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-05 14:53         ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-01 13:34 ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-01 13:39 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2016-04-01 15:38   ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-05 13:44   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-06  8:15     ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-28 18:53     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-09 14:20       ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-07 12:10 ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-07 15:08   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-07 15:47     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-07 18:03       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-07 18:33         ` Jiri Kosina

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