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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, den@openvz.org, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 05/17] raw-posix: Implement .bdrv_lockf
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:45:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160419134502.GC538@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160419133605.GI11600@redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 02:36:05PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 
> I'd prefer some kind of no lock / ignore lock.  There is a legitimate
> case where you want to have the shared lock behaviour, but also a
> legitimate one for turning it off.  I'm not opposed to the idea --
> there are very real cases where your patch saves people from
> themselves.

[snip]

> Off topic: How does this patch deal with genuinely shared (writable)
> disks, as used in cluster filesystems?

This series does add support for a lock_image=no parameter for disks
which turns off all locking. IIUC, this was intended for use when
the disk image must be shared between guests

IOW, this series is doing the following:

 - read-only, exclusive -> F_RDLOCK
 - writable, shared     -> no locking
 - writable, exclusive  -> F_WRLOCK

This stuff leaves open possibility of mistakes if one VM is
given a disk in write+exclusive, while other VM gets the
same disk in write+shared mode.

In virtlockd we took a different approach to this:

 - read-only, exclusive -> no locking
 - writable, shared     -> F_RDLOCK
 - writable, exclusive  -> F_WRLOCK

because this lets the kernel prevent case where the disk image is presented
in write+shared mode to one VM and write+exlcusive mode to another VM.
Not doing any locking at all in readonly case allowed for the scenario
needed with libguestfs where they create an overlay for disks in use.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-19 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-15  3:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 00/17] block: Lock images when opening Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 01/17] block: Add BDRV_O_NO_LOCK Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 10:47   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 02/17] qapi: Add lock-image in blockdev-add options Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 10:48   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-26  8:01     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 03/17] blockdev: Add and parse "lock-image" option for block devices Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 13:15   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-19 13:00     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 04/17] block: Introduce image file locking Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 13:22   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-18  1:43     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 23:29   ` Max Reitz
2016-04-18  1:33     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-18  5:34       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-19 19:14         ` Max Reitz
2016-04-20  8:46           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-19 19:13       ` Max Reitz
2016-04-25 23:55   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-04-26  0:47     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 05/17] raw-posix: Implement .bdrv_lockf Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 13:29   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-18  1:12     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-18  5:30       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-18  9:34       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-18  9:38         ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-17 19:27   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-18  1:10     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-18  8:04       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-19 12:37         ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-19 13:07           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-19 13:19             ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-19 13:36               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-19 13:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2016-04-19 13:34         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-19 13:40           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 06/17] gluster: " Fam Zheng
2016-04-15 12:24   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Niels de Vos
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 07/17] rbd: Implement image locking Fam Zheng
2016-04-23  1:57   ` Jason Dillaman
2016-04-25  0:42     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-26 15:42       ` Jason Dillaman
2016-04-27  0:20         ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-27 18:18           ` Jason Dillaman
2016-04-28  1:33             ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 08/17] qemu-io: Add "-L" option for BDRV_O_NO_LOCK Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 13:46   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-19 12:59     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 09/17] qemu-img: Add "-L" option to sub commands Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 14:29   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-16 14:30     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-19 12:59     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 10/17] qemu-img: Update documentation of "-L" option Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 11/17] qemu-nbd: Add "--no-lock/-L" option Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 14:32   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-19 12:58     ` Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 12/17] qemu-iotests: 140: Disable image lock for qemu-io access Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 13/17] qemu-iotests: 046: Move version detection out from verify_io Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 14/17] qemu-iotests: Wait for QEMU processes before checking image in 091 Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 15/17] qemu-iotests: Disable image lock when checking test image Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 16/17] block: Turn on image locking by default Fam Zheng
2016-04-15  3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 17/17] qemu-iotests: Add test case 152 for image locking Fam Zheng
2016-04-16 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v2 00/17] block: Lock images when opening Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-18  9:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-19 12:40   ` Fam Zheng

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