From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933411AbcDYUAL (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:00:11 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0143.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.143]:50220 "EHLO smtprelay.hostedemail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933160AbcDYUAJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:00:09 -0400 X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,,d41d8cd98f00b204,rostedt@goodmis.org,:::::::::::::::,RULES_HIT:41:355:379:541:599:800:960:973:988:989:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2553:2559:2562:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3351:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3871:3872:3874:5007:6261:7875:8531:10004:10400:10848:10967:11232:11658:11914:12517:12519:12740:13069:13095:13161:13229:13311:13357:13439:14659:14721:21080:21212:21433:30036:30054:30090:30091,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0,LFtime:8,LUA_SUMMARY:none X-HE-Tag: boys30_3b350ac56994f X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1862 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 16:00:05 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Linus Torvalds , LKML , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Andrew Morton , Uwe =?UTF-8?B?S2xlaW5lLUvDtm5pZw==?= Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] printk: Add kernel parameter to disable writes to /dev/kmsg Message-ID: <20160425160005.0eb36aea@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20160425195437.GA25465@kroah.com> References: <20160425145606.598329f2@gandalf.local.home> <20160425190651.GL3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160425191815.GA24761@kroah.com> <20160425192435.GM3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160425195437.GA25465@kroah.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:54:37 -0700 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > This systemd exposure has seriously eroded your sanity. > > See Andrew's message, this was added because of klibc :) For the purpose to pass messages from early init through to final boot. Systemd continued this for the same purpose. Which I agree is totally legit. But where systemd fails, is that it continues to use this interface far beyond the need. I agree with Andrew, we should have had a way to close the pipe after the system was up and running. -- Steve