From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.152]:33752 "EHLO e34.co.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752310AbcD0WuP (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:50:15 -0400 Received: from localhost by e34.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:50:14 -0600 Received: from b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.27]) by d03dlp02.boulder.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE393E40041 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:49:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (d01av01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.215]) by b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id u3RMniHb33751194 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:49:44 GMT Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av01.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id u3RMniUS012984 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:49:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 15:50:22 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" Subject: Re: Some questions Message-ID: <20160427225022.GK4967@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Reply-To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com References: <20160427165357.GD4967@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <2b39d2d5-962b-ce05-aa59-5569abdc4049@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2b39d2d5-962b-ce05-aa59-5569abdc4049@gmail.com> Sender: perfbook-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Akira Yokosawa Cc: perfbook@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 07:15:05AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > On 2016/04/27 09:53:57 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:21:48AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote: > > [snip] > > > >> However, the newly added Table 14.2 "A Variable With More Simultaneous Values" > >> seems like it is not complete yet. Is that the case? > > > > Please see attached for what it looks like to me. > > Well, this is identical to the one I built. > So, do you intend to explicitly put numbers which show up fairly long time, and > leave other cells blank even below changes of values denoted by (n) in italics? The blank cells represent cache misses. The CPU is waiting for a read to complete during that time. A non-blank cell corresponds to a CPU actually completing a read. > >> Looks like you used some custom script or something to generate the table > >> from a raw data that contains when each cpu sees the updates. > >> > >> Do you have a plan to replace the Table with a Figure something like > >> Figure 14.5 "A Variable With Multiple Simultaneous Values"? > > > > I briefly considered coloring the table cells, but got distracted. > > That kind of work would be made easy if you make a script or something to > generate the latex source of the table. The problem is the script itself > might take time to make it work properly. I could be of help in that area. I probably do have something somewhere... No guarantees of finding it... > > I am not sure that making a 14.5-like barchart would be all that > > readable... But please feel free to prove me wrong. > > There would be a number of very narrow bars hard to recognize. > It would also be impossible to see there are fourteen different opinions > at time 20. Yes, a table seems a better way to represent this. Not sure that there is a really good way to represent this, but again, please feel free to prove me wrong! A nicer representation would be a very good thing. Thanx, Paul > >> If you do, I'll refrain from touching the Table. Rather, I'd be interested > >> in improving the script you might be using, if any. > >> > >> Another totally unrelated question is about the URL you placed in > >> Section C.7: "http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/wiz_2637.html". > >> Sadly, this URL is no longer valid. Do you happen to aware of an alternative > >> URL still accessible today? > > > > This one: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_2637.html > > > >> By looking up a Wikipedia article, I found a page at > >> http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/technology/chip-docs.html, > >> which is "Archived technical documentation library" of Alpha > >> containing links to technical documentation for Alpha microprocessors > >> and Alpha ATX motherboards. Is there a document there which can be > >> referred to instead of the above mentioned URL? > > > > Ah, I see... I blew it and included the URL verbatim in the text. > > It should be replaced with \cite{Compaq01}. > > > > Fixed, with your Reported-by! Thank you! > > Oh, you are most welcome! > Thanks, Akira > > > > Thanx, Paul > > >