All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, imammedo@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	agraf@suse.de, qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, dgibson@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:56:20 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160615005620.GU4882@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160614061949.eh45x57tdimt6obr@hawk.localdomain>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4220 bytes --]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:19:49AM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:12:16PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 03:48:10PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:54:35AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > > On 10.06.2016 19:40, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  qom/cpu.c | 8 ++++++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/qom/cpu.c b/qom/cpu.c
> > > > > index 751e992de8823..024cda3eb98c8 100644
> > > > > --- a/qom/cpu.c
> > > > > +++ b/qom/cpu.c
> > > > > @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
> > > > >  #include "exec/log.h"
> > > > >  #include "qemu/error-report.h"
> > > > >  #include "sysemu/sysemu.h"
> > > > > +#include "hw/qdev-properties.h"
> > > > >  
> > > > >  bool cpu_exists(int64_t id)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > @@ -342,6 +343,12 @@ static int64_t cpu_common_get_arch_id(CPUState *cpu)
> > > > >      return cpu->cpu_index;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >  
> > > > > +static Property cpu_common_properties[] = {
> > > > > +    DEFINE_PROP_INT32("nr-cores", CPUState, nr_cores, 1),
> > > > > +    DEFINE_PROP_INT32("nr-threads", CPUState, nr_threads, 1),
> > > > > +    DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST()
> > > > > +};
> > > > 
> > > > Are you aware of the current CPU hotplug discussion that is going on?
> > > 
> > > I'm aware of it going on, but haven't been following it.
> > > 
> > > > I'm not very involved there, but I think some of these reworks also move
> > > > "nr_threads" into the CPU state already, e.g. see:
> > > 
> > > nr_threads (and nr_cores) are already state in CPUState. This patch just
> > > exposes that state via properties.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > https://github.com/dgibson/qemu/commit/9d07719784ecbeebea71
> > > > 
> > > > ... so you might want to check these patches first to see whether you
> > > > can base your rework on them?
> > > 
> > > Every cpu, and thus every machine, uses CPUState for its cpus. I'm
> > > not sure every machine will want to use that new abstract core class
> > > though. If they did, then we could indeed use nr_threads from there
> > > instead (and remove it from CPUState), but we'd still need nr_cores
> > > from the abstract cpu package class (CPUState).
> > 
> > Hmm.  Since the CPUState object represents just a single thread, it
> > seems weird to me that it would have nr_threads and nr_cores
> > information.
> > 
> > Exposing those as properties makes that much worse, because it's now
> > ABI, rather than internal detail we can clean up at some future time.
> 
> CPUState is supposed to be "State of one CPU core or thread", which
> justifies having nr_threads state, as it may be describing a core.

Um.. does it ever actually represent a (multithread) core in practice?
It would need to have duplicated register state for every thread were
that the case.

> I guess there's no justification for having nr_cores in there though.
> I agree adding the Core class is a good idea, assuming it will get used
> by all machines, and CPUState then gets changed to a Thread class. The
> question then, though, is do we also create a Socket class that contains
> nr_cores?

That was roughly our intention with the way the cross platform hotplug
stuff is evolving.  But the intention was that the Socket objects
would only need to be constructed for machine types where it makes
sense.  So for example on the paravirt pseries platform, we'll only
have Core objects, because the socket distinction isn't really
meaningful.

> And how will a Thread method get that information when it
> needs to emulate, e.g. CPUID, that requires it? It's a bit messy, so
> I'm open to all suggestions on it.

So, if the Thread needs this information, I'm not opposed to it having
it internally (presumably populated earlier from the Core object).
But I am opposed to it being a locked in part of the interface by
having it as an exposed property.

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson

[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 819 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-10 17:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/16] Rework SMP parameters Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 01/16] vl: smp_parse: cleanups Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  1:15   ` David Gibson
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 02/16] vl: smp: add checks for maxcpus based topologies Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  1:28   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:43     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 03/16] hw/smbios/smbios: fix number of sockets calculation Andrew Jones
2016-07-11 14:23   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 04/16] hw/core/machine: Introduce pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  1:30   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  5:58     ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:10       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:26         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 05/16] hw/core/machine: add smp properites Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  2:00   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:08     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:37       ` David Gibson
2016-06-15  7:11         ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:18           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:29             ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 06/16] vl: move smp parsing to machine pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-13 17:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-13 20:35     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  8:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-14 11:39         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 11:53           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-14 14:03             ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14 14:05               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-15  0:51               ` David Gibson
2016-06-15  7:19                 ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:43         ` David Gibson
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties Andrew Jones
2016-06-11  6:54   ` Thomas Huth
2016-06-12 13:48     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  2:12       ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:19         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:56           ` David Gibson [this message]
2016-07-14 20:07             ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:35               ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-15  9:11                 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-15 16:10                   ` [Qemu-devel] QOM: best way for parents to pass information to children? (was Re: [PATCH RFC 07/16] qom/cpu: make nr-cores, nr-threads real properties) Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 16:30                     ` Andreas Färber
2016-07-15 17:43                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15 18:38                         ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-15 21:33                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-16 15:30                             ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-19 11:54                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-18  7:23                             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 11:59                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-19 12:21                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-19 13:29                                   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 13:39                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 08/16] hw/core/machine: set cpu global nr_cores, nr_threads in pre_init Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 09/16] hw/i386/pc: don't use smp_cores, smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:33   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 10/16] hw/ppc/spapr: " Andrew Jones
2016-06-14  3:03   ` David Gibson
2016-06-14  6:23     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-15  0:59       ` David Gibson
2016-06-15  7:34         ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 11/16] target-ppc: don't use smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 12/16] hw/arm/virt: rename *.smp_cpus to *.cpus Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 13/16] hw/arm/virt: don't use smp_cpus, max_cpus Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 14/16] hw/arm/virt: stash cpu topo info in VirtGuestInfo Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:43   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:40     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 15/16] smbios: don't use smp_cores, smp_threads Andrew Jones
2016-07-14 20:51   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-07-15  6:45     ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-10 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 16/16] sysemu/cpus: bye, bye " Andrew Jones
2016-06-11  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/16] Rework SMP parameters Thomas Huth
2016-06-12 13:58   ` Andrew Jones
2016-06-12 14:03 ` Andrew Jones
2016-07-14  9:16 ` Andrew Jones

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20160615005620.GU4882@voom.fritz.box \
    --to=david@gibson.dropbear.id.au \
    --cc=agraf@suse.de \
    --cc=bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=dgibson@redhat.com \
    --cc=drjones@redhat.com \
    --cc=ehabkost@redhat.com \
    --cc=imammedo@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=peter.maydell@linaro.org \
    --cc=qemu-arm@nongnu.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=qemu-ppc@nongnu.org \
    --cc=thuth@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.