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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	xlpang@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, jdesfossez@efficios.com,
	bristot@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 8/8] rtmutex: Fix PI chain order integrity
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:25:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160615072507.GS5981@e106622-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160614194401.GL30921@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 14/06/16 21:44, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 06:39:08PM +0100, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > On 07/06/16 21:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > rt_mutex_waiter::prio is a copy of task_struct::prio which is updated
> > > during the PI chain walk, such that the PI chain order isn't messed up
> > > by (asynchronous) task state updates.
> > > 
> > > Currently rt_mutex_waiter_less() uses task state for deadline tasks;
> > > this is broken, since the task state can, as said above, change
> > > asynchronously, causing the RB tree order to change without actual
> > > tree update -> FAIL.
> > > 
> > > Fix this by also copying the deadline into the rt_mutex_waiter state
> > > and updating it along with its prio field.
> > > 
> > > Ideally we would also force PI chain updates whenever DL tasks update
> > > their deadline parameter, but for first approximation this is less
> > > broken than it was.
> > > 
> > 
> > The patch looks OK to me. However, I'm failing to see when we can update
> > dl.deadline of a waiter asynchronously. Since a waiter is blocked, we
> > can't really change his dl.deadline by calling setscheduler on him, as
> > the update would operate on dl.dl_deadline. The new values will start to
> > be used as soon as it gets unblocked. The situation seems different for
> > RT tasks, for which priority change takes effect immediately.
> > 
> > What am I missing? :-)
> 
> Ah, I missed the dl_deadline vs deadline thing. Still, with optimistic
> spinning the waiter could hit its throttle/refresh path, right? And then
> that would update deadline.
> 

I guess it's not that likely, but yes it could potentially happen that a
waiter is optimistically spinning, depletes its runtime, gets throttled
and then replenished when still spinning. Maybe it doesn't really make
sense continuing spinning in this situation, but I guess things get
really complicated. :-/

Anyway, as said, I think this patch is OK. Maybe we want to add a
comment just to remember what situation can cause an issue if we don't
do this? Patch changelog would be OK as well for such a comment IMHO.

Thanks,

- Juri

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-07 19:56 [RFC][PATCH 0/8] PI and assorted failings Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/8] rtmutex: Deboost before waking up the top waiter Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14  9:09   ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 12:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 13:20       ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 13:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 16:36     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-14 17:01       ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 18:22   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/8] sched/rtmutex/deadline: Fix a PI crash for deadline tasks Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 10:21   ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 12:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 12:53     ` Xunlei Pang
2016-06-14 13:07       ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 16:39         ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 18:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-14 20:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 16:14       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/8] sched/deadline/rtmutex: Dont miss the dl_runtime/dl_period update Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 10:43   ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 12:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 16:30   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-15 17:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/8] rtmutex: Remove rt_mutex_fastunlock() Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 16:43   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/8] rtmutex: Clean up Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 12:08   ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 12:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 12:41       ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/8] sched/rtmutex: Refactor rt_mutex_setprio() Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 13:14   ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 14:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/8] sched,tracing: Update trace_sched_pi_setprio() Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-07 19:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/8] rtmutex: Fix PI chain order integrity Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 17:39   ` Juri Lelli
2016-06-14 19:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15  7:25       ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2016-06-27 12:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-27 12:40           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-06-28  9:05           ` Juri Lelli

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