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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org, 1vier1@web.de,
	felixh@informatik.uni-bremen.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ipc/sem: sem_lock with hysteresis
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:54:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160628175450.GA19886@linux-80c1.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb23c7da-52a3-5e90-6c45-10e33d80417b@colorfullife.com>

On Sat, 25 Jun 2016, Manfred Spraul wrote:

>- Only simple ops: patch has no impact (the first 10 semops do not matter)

Agreed.

>- sleeping complex ops: patch has no impact, we are always in complex mode
>- not sleeping complex ops: depends on the size of the array.
>With a 4.000 semaphore array, I see an improvement of factor 20.
>
>There is obviously one case where the patch causes a slowdown:
>- complex op, then 11 simple ops, then repeat.

Yeah, you reset the counter to COMPLEX_MODE_ENTER every time we do a
complexmode_enter(), so if you have interleaving of complex and simple
ops you could end up always taking the big lock. This is my main concern
and not an unusual scenario at all.

I wonder if we could be a bit less aggressive if already in complex_mode
and do something like:

if (sma->complex_mode > 0) {
   WRITE_ONCE(sma->complex_mode, min(complex_mode + 1, COMPLEX_MODE_ENTER));
   return;
}

and still be constrained by COMPLEX_MODE_ENTER... of course that has its own
additional overhead, albeit less contention on the big lock :/

>
>Perhaps: set COMPLEX_MODE_ENTER to 1 or 2, then allow to configure it
>from user space.

Nah, I don't think it's a good idea to expose such internals to userspace.

>Or do not merge the patch and wait until someone come with a profile
>that shows complexmode_enter().

Testing/benchmarking this patch is on my todo list mainly because I'm lacking
a decent box to test it on. But I'm not conformable having this one without
any numbers for say at least a rdbms benchmark. I'm very eager to add the
first patch (complex_mode) once the nits are settled, as it fixes a real bug.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-28 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-15  5:23 linux-next: manual merge of the akpm-current tree with the tip tree Stephen Rothwell
2016-06-18 19:39 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-06-18 20:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] ipc/sem.c: Fix complex_count vs. simple op race Manfred Spraul
2016-06-18 20:02   ` Manfred Spraul
2016-06-18 20:02   ` [PATCH 2/2] ipc/sem: sem_lock with hysteresis Manfred Spraul
2016-06-21 20:29     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-25 17:37       ` Manfred Spraul
2016-06-28 17:54         ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2016-06-20 23:04   ` [PATCH 1/2] ipc/sem.c: Fix complex_count vs. simple op race Andrew Morton
2016-06-20 23:04     ` Andrew Morton
2016-06-23 18:55     ` Manfred Spraul
2016-06-21  0:30   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-23 19:22     ` Manfred Spraul
2016-06-28  5:27       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-30 19:28         ` Manfred Spraul
2016-07-01 16:52           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-25 17:37 [PATCH 0/2] ipc/sem.c: sem_lock fixes Manfred Spraul
2016-06-25 17:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] ipc/sem.c: Fix complex_count vs. simple op race Manfred Spraul
2016-06-25 17:37   ` [PATCH 2/2] ipc/sem: sem_lock with hysteresis Manfred Spraul

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