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From: Eryu Guan <eguan@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Tulak <jtulak@redhat.com>
Cc: fstests@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xfstests: update xfs/096 for new behaviour
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 11:05:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160701030537.GO23649@eguan.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160701003700.GU27480@dastard>

On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 10:37:00AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 02:54:59PM +0800, Eryu Guan wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:18:55PM +0200, Jan Tulak wrote:
> > > Because we recently changed how mkfs behaves when it gets incorrect/invalid
> > > values, update the expected output to reflect the current status.
> > > However, keep also compatibility with the old version.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Jan Tulak <jtulak@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > CHANGE: added compatibility for the old xfsprogs.
> > 
> > Sorry for the late response, because I was lost on this :)
> > 
> > Hi Dave - what's the rule/policy of maintaining the backword
> > compatibility in fstests?
> 
> We try to ensure that tests that work/pass on old versions of
> utilities continue to do so, even as the newer code changes. If the
> new code changes too much, then we can either stop running the test
> on older code, or we fork the test for the new code....

Thanks Dave for the clarification!

> 
> > I know that efforts have been made to make
> > sure new changes don't break old binaries, but is that a must or a
> > best-to-have? And what do you think about the xfsprogs version
> > comparing? (I'm OK with it :-))
> 
> We've tried to avoid using version numbers for comparisons, because
> that becomes a downward spiral into a mess. Instead, we have
> gone down the path of testing for supported features in binaries and
> filesystems, not checking version numbers. i.e. we don't care about
> the version number - we care about the feature that the binary
> provides. Those checks are self documenting - the test tells use
> what it requires which something that version number checks do not
> explain at all.

Makes sense.

> 
> In this case, we have a change in a binary that turns warnings into
> errors or issues errors rather than silently ignores what the user
> asked for and uses defaults. We already filter out anything relevant
> from the result to support all the changes in binary output since
> the test was introduced, so we really can't tell if the value
> substitution behaviour has changed anymore. IOWs, this test really
> isn't serving much purpose as a regression test anymore.
> 
> From that perspective, I'd say we either remove it or we stop trying
> to update it further by adding a new requires check for an old mkfs
> binary that silently accepts invalid log stripe unit sizes. i.e.
> don't add version number checks, add a feature check so that it only
> runs on old mkfs binaries but not new ones. e.g.
> _require_mkfs_accept_invalid_log_sunit()

This looks good to me.

Hi Jan - Can you please send an updated version as Dave suggested above?
And I think the input-validation test could be updated as well to make
it only run on newer mkfs.

Thanks a lot!

Eryu

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-01  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-02  9:10 [PATCH] xfstests: update xfs/096 for new behaviour Jan Tulak
2016-06-07  3:45 ` Eryu Guan
     [not found]   ` <CACj3i733G7oz_tg4NANfz_=X5nYMp31k-FskEPXxHsaSxKtTEw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-06-07  8:31     ` Fwd: " Jan Tulak
2016-06-23 11:22     ` Jan Tulak
2016-06-23 11:41       ` Jan Tulak
2016-06-29 10:18 ` [PATCH v2] " Jan Tulak
2016-06-30  6:54   ` Eryu Guan
2016-07-01  0:37     ` Dave Chinner
2016-07-01  3:05       ` Eryu Guan [this message]
2016-07-01 12:12         ` Jan Tulak
2016-07-01 16:14 ` [PATCH v3] " Jan Tulak
2016-07-13 10:38   ` Eryu Guan
2016-07-14 10:25     ` Jan Tulak

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