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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Robert Foss <robert.foss@collabora.com>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	koct9i@gmail.com, hughd@google.com, n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, john.stultz@linaro.org,
	ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com, jmarchan@redhat.com,
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	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, gorcunov@openvz.org,
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	eric.engestrom@imgtec.com, jdanis@google.com, calvinowens@fb.com,
	adobriyan@gmail.com, jann@thejh.net, sonnyrao@chromium.org,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ben Zhang <benzh@chromium.org>, Bryan Freed <bfreed@chromium.org>,
	Filipe Brandenburger <filbranden@chromium.org>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PACTH v2 0/3] Implement /proc/<pid>/totmaps
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:42:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160815134227.GE3360@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eef4a1f7-d96e-a474-79f5-6fc41aaea86d@collabora.com>

On Mon 15-08-16 09:00:04, Robert Foss wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2016-08-14 05:04 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Fri 12-08-16 18:04:19, robert.foss@collabora.com wrote:
> > > From: Robert Foss <robert.foss@collabora.com>
> > > 
> > > This series implements /proc/PID/totmaps, a tool for retrieving summarized
> > > information about the mappings of a process.
> > 
> > The changelog is absolutely missing the usecase. Why do we need this?
> > Why existing interfaces are not sufficient?
> 
> You are absolutely right, more info information is in 1/3.

Patch 1 is silent about the use case as well. It is usually recommended
to describe the motivation for the change in the cover letter.

> But the gist of it is that it provides a faster and more convenient way of
> accessing the information in /proc/PID/smaps.

I am sorry to insist but this is far from a description I was hoping
for. Why do we need a more convenient API? Please note that this is a
userspace API which we will have to maintain for ever. We have made many
mistakes in the past where exporting some information made sense at the
time while it turned out being a mistake only later on. So let's make
sure we will not fall into the same trap again.

So please make sure you describe the use case, why the current API is
insufficient and why it cannot be tweaked to provide the information you
are looking for.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-15 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-12 22:04 [PACTH v2 0/3] Implement /proc/<pid>/totmaps robert.foss
2016-08-12 22:04 ` [PACTH v2 1/3] mm, proc: " robert.foss
2016-08-13 14:39   ` Jann Horn
2016-08-15 13:57     ` Robert Foss
2016-08-15 20:14       ` Robert Foss
2016-08-12 22:04 ` [PACTH v2 2/3] Documentation/filesystems: Fixed typo robert.foss
2016-08-12 22:04 ` [PACTH v2 3/3] Documentation/filesystems: Added /proc/PID/totmaps documentation robert.foss
2016-08-14  9:04 ` [PACTH v2 0/3] Implement /proc/<pid>/totmaps Michal Hocko
2016-08-15 13:00   ` Robert Foss
2016-08-15 13:42     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-08-15 16:25       ` Robert Foss
2016-08-16  7:12         ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-16 16:46           ` Robert Foss
2016-08-17  8:22             ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-17  9:31               ` Jann Horn
2016-08-17 13:03                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-17 16:48                   ` Robert Foss
2016-08-17 18:57                   ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-18  7:44                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-18 17:47                       ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-18 18:01                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-18 21:05                           ` Robert Foss
2016-08-19  6:27                             ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-19  2:26                           ` Minchan Kim
2016-08-19  6:47                             ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-19  8:05                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-19 18:20                               ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-22  0:07                               ` Minchan Kim
2016-08-22  7:40                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-22 14:12                                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-08-22 14:37                                     ` Robert Foss
2016-08-22 16:45                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-22 17:29                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-22 17:47                                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-23  8:26                                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-23 14:33                                             ` utime accounting regression since 4.6 (was: Re: [PACTH v2 0/3] Implement /proc/<pid>/totmaps) Michal Hocko
2016-08-23 21:46                                               ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-24 16:56                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-30  9:49                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-09-30 12:35                                                   ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-19  6:43                           ` [PACTH v2 0/3] Implement /proc/<pid>/totmaps Sonny Rao
2016-08-19  7:59                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-19 17:57                               ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-22  7:54                                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-22 22:44                                   ` Sonny Rao
2016-08-24 10:14                                     ` Marcin Jabrzyk
2016-08-30  8:20                                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-29 14:37                                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-30  8:15                                       ` Michal Hocko

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