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From: "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: "ltsi-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ltsi-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Stable kernel] feature backporting collaboration
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:44:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160906194404.GA22363@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1473175831.17204.29.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 11:30:31AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
>    3. Increase the pain.  Not sure I like this, but in theory, we could
>       churn the upstream API to increase the pain of upports, but it would
>       also cause a lot of issues with backports.

I tried doing this in the past.  It did cause pain for out-of-tree
modules, but then they got really good and abstracted things away so
that it made their future kernel porting efforts even easier than
before, making their need to upstream code even less.  And then when
they did want to upstream stuff, it took more work unwinding the
abstraction layer.

So watch out for unintended consequences here :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-06 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-01  2:01 [Ksummit-discuss] [Stable kernel] feature backporting collaboration Alex Shi
2016-09-02  1:25 ` Levin, Alexander
2016-09-02  2:43   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-09-02  9:59     ` Mark Brown
2016-09-02  9:54   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-02 10:16     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [LTSI-dev] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-09-02 14:42     ` [Ksummit-discuss] " James Bottomley
2016-09-02 14:55       ` Rik van Riel
2016-09-02 15:04         ` James Bottomley
2016-09-02 15:39           ` Rik van Riel
2016-09-02 17:06       ` Bird, Timothy
2016-09-05  1:45         ` NeilBrown
2016-09-05 11:04           ` Mark Brown
2016-09-05 22:44             ` NeilBrown
2016-09-06  0:57               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-06  5:41                 ` NeilBrown
2016-09-08 18:33               ` [Ksummit-discuss] [LTSI-dev] " Bird, Timothy
2016-09-08 22:38                 ` NeilBrown
2016-09-09 11:01                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 22:17                     ` NeilBrown
2016-09-12 17:37                       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-13  7:46                         ` NeilBrown
2016-09-13 17:53                           ` Mark Brown
2016-09-02 18:21       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Olof Johansson
2016-09-02 23:35         ` Mark Brown
2016-09-03  5:29         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-09-03 10:40           ` Mark Brown
2016-09-04  0:10         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-04  8:34           ` gregkh
2016-09-04 22:58           ` Amit Kucheria
2016-09-04 23:51             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-05 12:58               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-05 11:11             ` Mark Brown
2016-09-05 14:03               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-05 14:22                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-06  0:35                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-06 15:30                     ` James Bottomley
2016-09-06 19:44                       ` gregkh [this message]
2016-09-06 22:20                         ` Mark Brown
2016-09-06 22:34                           ` James Bottomley
2016-09-08 18:55                             ` Bird, Timothy
2016-09-08 19:19                               ` gregkh
2016-09-09 10:45                                 ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 11:03                                   ` gregkh
2016-09-09 11:48                                     ` Mark Brown
2016-09-06 23:23                       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-06 13:34                   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-09-06 16:24                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2016-09-06 16:25                     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-09-06 22:39                       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-07  8:33                       ` Jan Kara
2016-09-07  8:41                         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-09-07 18:44                           ` Mark Brown
2016-09-08 17:06                             ` Frank Rowand
2016-09-09 10:32                               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 15:21                         ` Alex Shi
2016-09-12 15:34                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-09-06 16:46                     ` Olof Johansson
2016-09-08  8:34                       ` Linus Walleij
2016-09-08  8:55                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-09-09 14:32                           ` Rob Herring
2016-09-09 14:23                         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                     ` <2181684.5VzIQ6DWv4@amdc1976>
2016-09-07  9:32                       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-09-07 13:07                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2016-09-07 18:49                         ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 15:06                         ` Alex Shi
2016-09-02 23:29       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-02 19:16     ` Levin, Alexander
2016-09-03  0:05       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-05  9:28         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-21  6:58           ` Alex Shi
2016-09-21  9:23             ` gregkh
2016-09-21 14:52               ` Alex Shi
2016-09-21 15:28                 ` gregkh
2016-09-21 18:50                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-22  3:15                   ` Alex Shi
2016-09-21 18:22               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-21 18:54                 ` Linus Walleij
2016-09-21 19:52                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-22  0:43                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-22  5:20                 ` gregkh
2016-09-22 12:56                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-22 16:22                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-22 22:14                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-23 12:28                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-23 13:27                         ` [Ksummit-discuss] [LTSI-dev] " Alex Shi
2016-09-23 13:40                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-09-23 14:40                       ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mark Brown
2016-09-21 13:56             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-21 15:23               ` Alex Shi
2016-09-21 15:33                 ` gregkh
2016-09-21 19:16                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-02 13:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-02 19:31   ` Levin, Alexander
2016-09-02 19:42     ` gregkh
2016-09-02 20:06       ` Levin, Alexander
2016-09-03  2:04   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-06  7:20   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [LTSI-dev] " Tsugikazu Shibata
2016-09-10 12:00     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-12 16:27       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-12 17:14         ` Greg KH
2016-09-12 23:45           ` Mark Brown
2016-09-13  3:14             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-09-13 10:14               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-13 13:19               ` Levin, Alexander
2016-09-13  6:19             ` Greg KH
2016-09-13 10:38               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-13 12:09                 ` Greg KH
2016-09-13 12:20                   ` Josh Boyer
2016-09-13 13:12                     ` Greg KH
2016-09-13 16:23                       ` Bird, Timothy
2016-09-13 19:02                       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-14 14:47                       ` Alex Shi
2016-09-20  5:15                       ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2016-09-21  8:46                         ` Alex Shi
2016-09-13 12:25                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-09-13 19:21                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-14  1:49                     ` Greg KH
2016-09-14  3:00                       ` Guenter Roeck
2016-09-12  4:12     ` Alex Shi
2016-09-12 16:09       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-09-13  2:39         ` Alex Shi

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