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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Nilay Vaish <nilayvaish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/dumpstack: allow preemption in show_stack_log_lvl() and dump_trace()
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 14:38:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160913193852.mxdqrbpvz3rkazuh@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160913182957.GA25373@gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 08:29:57PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > show_stack_log_lvl() and dump_trace() are already preemption safe:
> > 
> > - If they're running in irq or exception context, preemption is already
> >   disabled and the percpu stack pointers can be trusted.
> > 
> > - If they're running with preemption enabled, they must be running on
> >   the task stack anyway, so it doesn't matter if they're comparing the
> >   stack pointer against a percpu stack pointer from this CPU or another
> >   one: either way it won't match.
> 
> Yeah, so I'm having second thoughts about this patch. My worry here is: what if we 
> get preempted in this sequence?
> 
> If the kernel is borked real bad then we could get technically correct but really, 
> really weird looking stack traces if for example the task stack is getting 
> corrupted or something like that.

If it's in the oops or BUG path, there can't be preemption anyway
because oops_begin() disables interrupts.

It does look like the WARN path could get preempted.  Not to mention all
the other callers of show_regs(), dump_stack(), show_stack_log_lvl(),
etc.  In those cases, if the stack dump got preempted in the middle, and
then another task dumped its stack, the two dumps could be interspersed
a bit which would indeed be a little confusing.

But that would be quite rare.  And anyway, we already have the same
issue today when two CPUs are dumping the stack at the same time.  So I
don't think it's much of an issue.

> Dunno. How long does the worst-case processing here take on a typical x86 system, 
> does it really matter to scheduling latency?

I haven't heard any complaints about latency.  The goal was just to try
to simplify the code a bit.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-13 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-24 16:50 [PATCH 0/6] x86/dumpstack: more stack dump improvements Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/x86: check perf_callchain_store() error Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08  9:48   ` [tip:x86/asm] perf/x86: Check " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 2/6] oprofile/x86: add regs->ip to oprofile trace Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-30 11:30   ` Robert Richter
2016-09-08  9:48   ` [tip:x86/asm] oprofile/x86: Add " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/dumpstack: make printk_stack_address() more generally useful Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 17:28   ` Joe Perches
2016-08-24 18:43     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 19:07       ` Joe Perches
2016-08-24 19:24         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 19:57           ` Joe Perches
2016-08-24 18:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-24 18:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-24 18:37       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-24 19:37         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-25 17:49           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-25 20:41             ` Kees Cook
2016-08-25 21:07               ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFy3sgA4=ZPhiDWiRMvWj9QPhUd0JBdUr1hm_6G0aSC6uw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-26  2:19                   ` Kees Cook
2016-08-26  3:19                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-26  4:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26  5:56                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]                         ` <CA+55aFy8FPRiEr-4p++TGj+keTNsg781q1E1FQZ7z4+nAs0ZaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-26 13:30                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-31 16:53         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-31 17:15           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-01 13:09             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-01 16:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-08  9:49   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Make " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_pointer() and get_frame_pointer() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08  9:49   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Add " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] x86/dumpstack: remove unnecessary stack pointer arguments Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08  9:50   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Remove " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/dumpstack: allow preemption in show_stack_log_lvl() and dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08  7:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-08 21:47     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08 21:49       ` [PATCH v2] " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-13 18:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-13 19:38           ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2016-09-14 17:39         ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Allow " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-09  6:11       ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/dumpstack: allow " Ingo Molnar
2016-09-01 13:13 ` [PATCH 0/6] x86/dumpstack: more stack dump improvements Josh Poimboeuf

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