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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf-G/eBtMaohhA@public.gmane.org>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo-Cap9r6Oaw4JrovVCs/uTlw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov
	<alexei.starovoitov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel-cYrQPVfZoowdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	htejun-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org,
	daniel-FeC+5ew28dpmcu3hnIyYJQ@public.gmane.org,
	ast-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org,
	davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org,
	kafai-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org,
	fw-HFFVJYpyMKqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org,
	harald-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	sargun-GaZTRHToo+CzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/6] Add eBPF hooks for cgroups
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:06:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160914110629.GA12405@pox.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160914103038.GA910@salvia>

On 09/14/16 at 12:30pm, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 09:42:19PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> [...]
> > For us this cgroup+bpf is _not_ for filterting and _not_ for security.
> 
> If your goal is monitoring, then convert these hooks not to allow to
> issue a verdict on the packet, so this becomes inoquous in the same
> fashion as the tracing infrastructure.

Why? How is this at all offensive? We have three parties voicing
interest in this work for both monitoring and security. At least
two specific use cases have been described.  It builds on top of
existing infrastructure and nicely complements other ongoing work.
Why not both?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-12 16:12 [PATCH v5 0/6] Add eBPF hooks for cgroups Daniel Mack
2016-09-12 16:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] bpf: add new prog type for cgroup socket filtering Daniel Mack
2016-09-12 16:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] cgroup: add support for eBPF programs Daniel Mack
2016-09-12 16:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] bpf: add BPF_PROG_ATTACH and BPF_PROG_DETACH commands Daniel Mack
     [not found] ` <1473696735-11269-1-git-send-email-daniel-cYrQPVfZoowdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-12 16:12   ` [PATCH v5 4/6] net: filter: run cgroup eBPF ingress programs Daniel Mack
2016-09-12 16:12   ` [PATCH v5 5/6] net: core: run cgroup eBPF egress programs Daniel Mack
2016-09-12 16:12   ` [PATCH v5 6/6] samples: bpf: add userspace example for attaching eBPF programs to cgroups Daniel Mack
2016-09-13 11:56 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Add eBPF hooks for cgroups Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-09-13 13:31   ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]     ` <da300784-284c-0d1f-a82e-aa0a0f8ae116-cYrQPVfZoowdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-13 14:14       ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-09-13 17:24       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-09-14  4:42         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-14  9:03           ` Thomas Graf
     [not found]           ` <20160914044217.GA44742-+o4/htvd0TDFYCXBM6kdu7fOX0fSgVTm@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 10:30             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-09-14 11:06               ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2016-09-14 11:36               ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-09-14 11:13         ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]           ` <6de6809a-13f5-4000-5639-c760dde30223-cYrQPVfZoowdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 11:42             ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]               ` <57D937B9.2090100-FeC+5ew28dpmcu3hnIyYJQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 15:55                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-16 19:57           ` Sargun Dhillon
     [not found]             ` <20160916195728.GA14736-I4sfFR6g6EicJoAdRrHjTrzMkBWIpU9tytq7g7fCXyjEk0E+pv7Png@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-18 23:34               ` Sargun Dhillon
2016-09-19 16:34               ` Daniel Mack
2016-09-19 21:53                 ` Sargun Dhillon
     [not found]                   ` <20160919215311.GA9723-I4sfFR6g6EicJoAdRrHjTrzMkBWIpU9tytq7g7fCXyjEk0E+pv7Png@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-20 14:25                     ` Daniel Mack
2016-09-15  6:36 ` Vincent Bernat
     [not found]   ` <m3y42tlldz.fsf-PiWSfznZvZU/eRriIvX0kg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-15  8:11     ` Daniel Mack
2016-09-15  8:11       ` Daniel Mack

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