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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com, armbru@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
	p.fedin@samsung.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 06/22] sev: add initial SEV support
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 08:54:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160914115412.GA24695@thinpad.lan.raisama.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160914083051.GC28399@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 09:30:51AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 07:00:44PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > (CCing Daniel Berrange in case he has feedback on the
> > nonce/dh_pub_qx/dh_pub_qy loading/parsing at the end of this
> > message)
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 02:54:40PM -0500, Brijesh Singh wrote:
> > > Hi Eduardo,
> > > 
> > > On 09/13/2016 10:58 AM, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > A typical SEV config file looks like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Are those config options documented somewhere?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Various commands and parameters are documented [1]
> > > 
> > > [1] http://support.amd.com/TechDocs/55766_SEV-KM%20API_Spec.pdf
> > 
> > If I understand correctly, the docs describe the firmware
> > interface. The interface provided by QEMU is not the same thing,
> > and needs to be documented as well (even if it contains pointers
> > to sections or tables in the firmware interface docs).
> > 
> > Some of the questions I have about the fields are:
> > * Do we really need the user to provide all the options below?
> >   * Can't QEMU or KVM calculate vcpu_count/vcpu_length/vcpu_mask,
> >     for example?
> > * Is bit 0 (KS) the only bit that can be set on flags? If so, why
> >   not a boolean "ks" option?
> > * Is "policy" the guest policy structure described at page 23? If
> >   so, why exposing the raw value instead of separate fields for
> >   each bit/field in the structure? (and only for the ones that
> >   are supposed to be set by the user)
> > * If vcpu_mask is a bitmap for each VCPU, should we represent it
> >   as a list of VCPU indexes?
> > 
> > A good way to model this data and document it more properly is
> > through a QAPI schema. grep for "opts_visitor_new()" in the code
> > for examples where QEMU options are parsed according to a QAPI
> > schema. The downside is that using a QAPI visitor is (AFAIK) not
> > possible if using -object like I suggest below.
> 
> It needs to use QOM really, not QAPI, since it has to be user
> creatable on the CLI and we don't want to invent new command
> line arguments.

As much as I don't like not being able to use the QAPI schema to
document -object, this is true.

[...]
> > > > 
> > > > Do we really need to write our own parser? I wonder if we can
> > > > reuse crypto/secret.c for loading the keys.
> > > > 
> > > I just looked at crypto/secret.c for loading the keys but not sure if will
> > > able to reuse the secret_load routines, this is mainly because the SEV
> > > inputs parameters are different compare to what we have in crypto/secrets.c.
> > > I will still look more closely and see if we can find some common code.
> > 
> > There are other parameters, sure, but maybe it would be
> > appropriate to just load nonce/dh_pub_qx/dh_pub_qy as
> > TTYPE_QCRYPTO_SECRET object(s) (-object secret,...)? I am not
> > sure because I don't understand the crypto part fully.
> 
> The secrets object is used for information that has to be kept
> private from eavesdroppers. Based on the param names here
> 'dh_pub_qx' it sounds like this is non-sensitive "public"
> data, so would not need to use the secrets object, but it
> is hard to say for sure without close look at the technical
> details.

They are a public key and nonce for ECDH key agreement, so they
are public (AFAICS).

So let's forget about "-object secret". I just want to ensure we
either reuse existing parsing code, or put the new parser in
common code that can be reused.

-- 
Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-13 14:46 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 00/22] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 01/22] exec: add guest RAM read/write ops Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 02/22] cpu-common: add debug version of physical memory read/write Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 03/22] monitor: use debug version of physical memory read api Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 04/22] memattrs: add SEV debug attrs Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 20:30     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 05/22] i386: add new option to enable SEV guest Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 22:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  8:41     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14  9:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 06/22] sev: add initial SEV support Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 15:58   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-13 19:54     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 20:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 22:00       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14  8:30         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 11:54           ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2016-09-14 11:58             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 16:10         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 16:13           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 16:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 18:46             ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 20:23               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14  8:37   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 07/22] sev: add SEV launch start command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 08/22] sev: add SEV launch update command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 09/22] sev: add SEV launch finish command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 22:15   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 10/22] sev: add SEV debug decrypt command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14  2:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14  8:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 13:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:07         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 13:23           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 13:32             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:37               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 13:50                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 14:08                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 14:14                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 14:38                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 15:17                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 14:15                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 14:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 15:06                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 15:46                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 17:35                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 22:05                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-15 14:58                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 13:27           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] virtio_pci: Limit DMA mask to 44 bits for legacy virtio devices Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:36     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 10/22] sev: add SEV debug decrypt command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 13:48       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 14:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 15:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 16:53             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 18:15               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 18:45                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 19:24                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 19:58                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 20:36                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 20:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:25                           ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 21:38                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 11/22] sev: add SEV debug encrypt command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 12/22] sev: add SEV guest status command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 13/22] hmp: update 'info kvm' to display SEV status Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 16:09   ` Eric Blake
2016-09-14 16:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-15  4:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 23:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 14/22] sev: provide SEV-enabled guest RAM read/write ops Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 15/22] i386: sev: register RAM read/write ops for BIOS and PC.RAM region Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 20:59     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 21:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:47         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 21:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 22:06             ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 22:17               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 22:26                 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-15 14:13                 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-15 15:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 17/22] target-i386: add cpuid Fn8000_001f Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:20     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 16:24       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 18:21       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 18/22] i386: clear C-bit in SEV guest page table walk Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 19/22] exec: set debug attribute in SEV-enabled guest Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 18:39   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 20:46     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 20:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 22:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  2:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14  8:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 18:00         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode Message-ID: <20160921205731-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 12:09       ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 13:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 13:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:51             ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 16:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 17:25                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-21 18:03         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-21 18:19           ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 21/22] hw: add pre and post system reset callback Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 22:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 16:19     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 22/22] loader: reload bios image on ROM reset in SEV-enabled guest Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 18:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 22:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  2:38     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 20:29     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 20:38       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 21:11           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:24         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 00/22] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Eduardo Habkost
     [not found] ` <147377816978.11859.942423377333907417.stgit@brijesh-build-machine>
2016-09-13 18:37   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 16/22] i386: pc: load OS images at fixed location in SEV-enabled guest Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-21 15:55     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 15:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:08         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 16:17           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  2:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 00/22] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Michael S. Tsirkin

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