From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755672AbcIPVgp convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:36:45 -0400 Received: from ec2-52-27-115-49.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com ([52.27.115.49]:48117 "EHLO s-opensource.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751681AbcIPVgh (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:36:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:36:31 -0300 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: Joe Perches Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Linux Doc Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Markus Heiser , Jani Nikula , LKML Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/21] Documentation/applying-patches.txt: convert it to ReST markup Message-ID: <20160916183631.78ab4758@vento.lan> In-Reply-To: <1474046437.32273.80.camel@perches.com> References: <8aa5f588945e0fbf29d55639cfe0dbcc1694cfc7.1473849886.git.mchehab@s-opensource.com> <20160916111026.281b02c7@lwn.net> <1474046437.32273.80.camel@perches.com> Organization: Samsung X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Em Fri, 16 Sep 2016 10:20:37 -0700 Joe Perches escreveu: > On Fri, 2016-09-16 at 11:10 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 08:06:34 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > - use the correct markup to identify each section; > > - Add some blank lines for Sphinx to properly interpret > >   the markups; > > - Remove a blank space on some paragraphs; > > - Fix the verbatim and bold markups; > > - Cleanup the remaining errors to make Sphinx happy. > > > So I certainly don't have a problem with the changes made to this file, but > > there is some discomfort at a higher level: > > +Last update: > > + 2006-01-05 > > I have to wonder what the value of a document saying how to FTP the patch > > and move up to 2.6.13 is in 2016. > > > Who knows, there might still be value in a discussion of using the patch > > tool. But I think we should seriously consider making a "historical" > > section for documents that are nearing or past their expiration dates. > > Or just entirely delete historical document sections. IMHO, it is best to just delete, or otherwise someone would be tempted to convert to ReST. In the specific case of this one, I still think it is has valuable information. That's why I updated it on patch 17/17 of the second patch series. > All the older kernel sources would still have them so > I don't see much of a need to keep the archival valued > documentation bits in the current kernel source tree. > > Suggesting using tools other than git seems wrong today. Well, while we still generate weekly and per-release patches at ftp.kernel.org, the information there is still valid. I have one doubt, however: on this document (and on another converted one), it mentions about: ftp.cc.kernel.org, where "cc" is a Country code. I kept it there (and on another document at the development-process/ dir). Is it still valid? I did some tests from here, and it didn't seem work. > And thank you Mauro for the relatively thankless effort > to cleanse and modernize the process documentation. Anytime! Thanks, Mauro