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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Al Stone <ahs3@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/15] ACPI graph support
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 10:57:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161006095739.GA22984@red-moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161006091133.GF30800@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 12:11:33PM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 09:57:03AM +0100, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > I am trying to understand why x86 wants to do this, please understand
> > our point of view too, we do not want to block progress we want to
> > prevent a mess.
> 
> One reason is that we have boards like Joule where developers are
> allowed to connect different peripherals using buses such as I2C and SPI
> where there is no native enumeration mechanism. This includes camera
> sensors and related so there needs to be a way for a developer to
> describe this in ACPI. Just as can be done when using ARM and DT.

I am sorry I think we are at loggerheads on this. If you need a DT boot
with a DT, I could have converted all the ACPI tables to DT nodes on
ARM64 if I followed your reasoning (because we could not boot with ACPI
till relatively recently), we did not do it because ACPI and DT are
different specifications, incompatible with one another and governed by
different entities in a *very* different way.

You are saying that just re-using leaf nodes properties (well, it
is not just leaf-nodes properties any longer, is it ?) is just
fine; I(We) am not convinced, time will tell. In the interim
please notify the respective subsystems maintainers and DT people
of this patch intentions, again I hope I am not asking too much.

Thanks,
Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-06  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-04 22:45 [RFC 00/15] ACPI graph support Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 01/15] ACPI / property: Add possiblity to retrieve parent firmware node Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 02/15] device property: Add fwnode_get_parent() Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 03/15] ACPI / property: Add fwnode_get_next_child_node() Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 04/15] device property: Add fwnode_get_named_child_node() Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 05/15] ACPI / property: Add support for remote endpoints Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 06/15] device " Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 07/15] device property: Add fwnode_handle_get() Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 08/15] of: Add of_fwnode_handle() to convert device nodes to fwnode_handle Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 09/15] driver core: Arrange headers alphabetically Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 10/15] of: No need to include property.h, fwnode.h is sufficient Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 11/15] device property: Obtain device's fwnode independently of FW type Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 12/15] device property: Add support for fwnode endpoints Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 13/15] of: Add nop implementation of of_get_next_parent() Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 14/15] device property: Add fwnode_get_next_parent() Sakari Ailus
2016-10-04 22:45 ` [RFC 15/15] ACPI / DSD: Document references, ports and endpoints Sakari Ailus
2016-10-05  9:22 ` [RFC 00/15] ACPI graph support Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-10-05 11:41   ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-05 15:06     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-10-05 15:32       ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-05 16:18         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-10-05 20:33           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06  8:57             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2016-10-06  9:11               ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-06  9:57                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2016-10-06 11:19                   ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-06 15:31                     ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 16:00                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 16:14                         ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 17:02                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-11 12:44                         ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-12  0:19                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 12:30                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 10:40                 ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 12:26                   ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-06 13:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 15:23                     ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 15:56                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 15:57                       ` Sudeep Holla
2016-10-06 12:26               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 21:37                 ` Mark Brown
2016-10-10 23:44                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-11 12:11                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-11 13:05                       ` Mark Brown
2016-10-11 12:44                     ` Mark Brown
2016-10-11 13:32                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-12  0:32                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-12 12:05                         ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12 12:26                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-11 13:01                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-11 13:26                     ` Mark Brown
2016-10-11 12:56                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-06 22:02             ` Sakari Ailus
2016-10-11 12:35         ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-12  9:00           ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-12 10:28             ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12 11:12               ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-12 11:25                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-12 16:00                   ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12 11:14               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-12 12:32                 ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12 12:42                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-12 14:59                     ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12 17:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 21:58       ` Sakari Ailus
2016-10-05 15:21     ` Mark Brown
2016-10-05 15:30     ` Sudeep Holla
2016-10-05 18:14       ` Mika Westerberg
2016-10-05 20:18       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 10:29         ` Sudeep Holla
2016-10-06 13:04           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 14:20             ` Sudeep Holla
2016-10-06 17:05               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 17:20                 ` Sudeep Holla
2016-10-11  0:05                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-11  8:57                     ` Sudeep Holla
2016-10-11 11:59                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-11 13:15                         ` Mark Brown
2016-10-12  0:35                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 17:20               ` Al Stone
2016-10-06 20:14                 ` Mark Brown
2016-10-06 20:54                   ` Al Stone
2016-10-11 12:28     ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-12  1:18       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-06 21:10   ` Sakari Ailus
2016-10-11 13:30     ` Mark Rutland

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