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From: Steve Muckle <smuckle.linux@gmail.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Lists linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
	Robin Randhawa <robin.randhawa@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] cpufreq: schedutil: move slow path from workqueue to SCHED_FIFO task
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:47:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161113194722.GC29583@graphite.smuckle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0gdZZ-h5JvRYacv2OH+gzG-wwHWevRmp04GNPNzUWwYeA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 03:37:18PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > Hold on a sec. I thought during LPC someone (Peter?) made a point that when
> > RT thread run, we should bump the frequency to max? So, schedutil is going
> > to trigger schedutil to bump up the frequency to max, right?
> 
> No, it isn't, or at least that is unlikely.
> 
> sugov_update_commit() sets sg_policy->work_in_progress before queuing
> the IRQ work and it is not cleared until the frequency changes in
> sugov_work().
> 
> OTOH, sugov_should_update_freq() checks sg_policy->work_in_progress
> upfront and returns false when it is set, so the governor won't see
> its own worker threads run, unless I'm overlooking something highly
> non-obvious.

FWIW my intention with the original version of this patch (which I
neglected to communicate to Viresh) was that it would depend on changing
the frequency policy for RT. I had been using rt_avg. It sounds like
during LPC there were talks of using another metric.

It does appear things would work okay without that but it also seems
a bit fragile. There's the window between when the work_in_progress
gets cleared and the RT kthread yields. I have not thought through the
various scenarios there, what is possible and tested to see if it is
significant enough to impact power-sensitive platforms.

thanks,
Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-13 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-11 10:22 [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: schedutil: move slow path from workqueue to SCHED_FIFO task Viresh Kumar
2016-11-11 10:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] cpufreq: schedutil: enable fast switch earlier Viresh Kumar
2016-11-11 14:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-11 21:52     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-11 22:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-11 21:58   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-12  5:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-13 14:46       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-14  4:06         ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-14 11:30           ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-11 10:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] cpufreq: schedutil: move slow path from workqueue to SCHED_FIFO task Viresh Kumar
2016-11-11 14:32   ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2016-11-11 14:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-12  5:22       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-14  9:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 10:22           ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-12  5:21     ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-11 22:16   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-12  1:31     ` Saravana Kannan
2016-11-12  5:27       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-14  5:37         ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-13 14:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-13 19:47         ` Steve Muckle [this message]
2016-11-13 22:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-14  6:36             ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-12  5:24     ` Viresh Kumar
2016-11-13 19:31     ` Steve Muckle
2016-11-11 10:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: schedutil: irq-work is used only in slow path Viresh Kumar

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