From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754374AbcKQQ60 (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0500 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:56044 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753121AbcKQQ5V (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Nov 2016 11:57:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:08:36 +0000 From: Will Deacon To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Boqun Feng , gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, keescook@chromium.org, elena.reshetova@intel.com, arnd@arndb.de, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, dave@progbits.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 7/7] kref: Implement using refcount_t Message-ID: <20161117120836.GE22855@arm.com> References: <20161114173946.501528675@infradead.org> <20161114174446.832175072@infradead.org> <20161115123337.GD12110@tardis.cn.ibm.com> <20161115130154.GX3117@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20161115141909.GJ27541@tardis.cn.ibm.com> <20161117092800.GD3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161117092800.GD3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:28:00AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:19:09PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote: > > But as I said, we actually only need the pairing of orderings: > > > > 1) load part of cmpxchg -> free() > > 2) object accesses -> store part of cmpxchg > > > > Ordering #1 can be achieved via control dependency as you pointed out > > that free()s very much includes stores. And ordering #2 can be achieved > > with RELEASE. > > > > So the code is right, I just thought the comment may be misleading. The > > reason we use cmpxchg_release() is just for achieving ordering #2, and > > not to order "prior loads and stores" with "a subsequent free". > > > > Am I missing some subtle orderings here? > > I would want to further quality 1), it must be no earlier than the load > of the last / successful ll/sc round. > > At that point we're guaranteed a reference count of 1 that _will_ drop > to 0, and thus nobody else (should) reference that memory anymore. > > If we agree on this, I'll update the comment :-) Will, do you too agree? All sounds reasonable to me. It's worth pointing out that you can't create order using a control dependency hanging off the status flag of a store-conditional, but the code in question here has the dependency from the loaded value, which is sufficient. Will