From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751841AbdAYJ5t (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 04:57:49 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([65.50.211.133]:57286 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751655AbdAYJ5o (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 04:57:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:57:36 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Lu Baolu , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Mathias Nyman , Ingo Molnar , tglx@linutronix.de, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Slaby Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] usb: dbc: early driver for xhci debug capability Message-ID: <20170125095736.GP6515@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1479189731-2728-1-git-send-email-baolu.lu@linux.intel.com> <1479189731-2728-2-git-send-email-baolu.lu@linux.intel.com> <20170119093743.GC22865@gmail.com> <58817A25.6080305@linux.intel.com> <20170122090423.GA15061@gmail.com> <5886DBB7.4070501@linux.intel.com> <20170124082039.GB8667@gmail.com> <5888377F.8090709@linux.intel.com> <20170125092355.GA24580@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170125092355.GA24580@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:23:55AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Lu Baolu wrote: > > > > Hiding essentially an early udelay() implementation in an early-printk driver is > > > ugly and counterproductive. > Yeah - so could we do this in a more generic fashion, not in the early-printk > driver but in core x86 code? So ideally early_printk() would not depend on udelay() being setup. In fact, ideally early_printk() wouldn't even use udelay -- this very much includes its own copy. Why is udelay() required? Can't the thing simply poll its own register state to wait for completion? This all sounds like xdbc cruft is still unreliably garbage..