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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	tianyu.lan@intel.com, kevin.tian@intel.com, mst@redhat.com,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, bd.aviv@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/18] vfio: introduce vfio_get_vaddr()
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:36:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170125113602.1ee76196@t450s.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ae1a5a1-2617-1862-ea1d-53f1383516d8@redhat.com>

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:40:56 +0100
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 25/01/2017 18:36, Alex Williamson wrote:
> >> You probably should also put a comment about why VFIO does *not* need to
> >> keep a reference between vfio_dma_map and vfio_dma_unmap (which doesn't
> >> sound easy to do either).  Would any well-behaved guest invalidate the
> >> IOMMU page tables before a memory hot-unplug?  
> >
> > Hmm, we do take a reference in vfio_listener_region_add(), but this is
> > of course to the iommu region not to the RAM region we're translating.
> > In the non-vIOMMU case we would be holding a reference to the memory
> > region backing a DMA mapping.  I would expect a well behaved guest to
> > evacuate DMA mappings targeting a hotplug memory region before it gets
> > ejected, but how much do we want to rely on well behaved guests.  
> 
> It depends of what happens if they aren't.  I think it's fine (see other
> message), but taking a reference for each mapping entry isn't so easy
> because the unmap case doesn't know the old memory region.

If we held a reference to the memory region from the mapping path and
walk the IOMMU page table to generate the unmap, then we really should
get to the same original memory region, right?  The vfio iommu notifier
should only be mapping native page sizes of the IOMMU, 4k/2M/1G.  The
problem is that it's a lot of overhead to flush the entire address
space that way vs the single invalidation Peter is trying to enable
here.  It's actually similar to how the type1 iommu works in the kernel
though, we can unmap by iova because we ask the iommu for the iova->pfn
translation in order to unpin the page.

I do agree with your description in the other message about how things
would work for a memory hot-unplug w/o unmap though, which does seem to
imply that we don't need that reference.  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-25 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-24 10:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/18] VT-d: vfio enablement and misc enhances Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/18] vfio: trace map/unmap for notify as well Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/18] vfio: introduce vfio_get_vaddr() Peter Xu
2017-01-24 16:29   ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-25  4:32     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-25 16:43       ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-25 17:16         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-26  6:26           ` Peter Xu
2017-01-25 17:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-25 17:36       ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-25 17:40         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-25 18:36           ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2017-01-25 19:42             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-25 20:09               ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-26  6:46                 ` Peter Xu
2017-01-26  7:12       ` Peter Xu
2017-01-26 10:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-26 12:01           ` Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/18] vfio: allow to notify unmap for very large region Peter Xu
2017-01-24 16:32   ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-31  3:35     ` David Gibson
2017-02-03  7:30       ` Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/18] intel_iommu: add "caching-mode" option Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/18] intel_iommu: simplify irq region translation Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/18] intel_iommu: renaming gpa to iova where proper Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/18] intel_iommu: fix trace for inv desc handling Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/18] intel_iommu: fix trace for addr translation Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/18] intel_iommu: vtd_slpt_level_shift check level Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/18] memory: add section range info for IOMMU notifier Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/18] memory: provide IOMMU_NOTIFIER_FOREACH macro Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/18] memory: provide iommu_replay_all() Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/18] memory: introduce memory_region_notify_one() Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/18] memory: add MemoryRegionIOMMUOps.replay() callback Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 15/18] intel_iommu: provide its own replay() callback Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 16/18] intel_iommu: do replay when context invalidate Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 17/18] intel_iommu: allow dynamic switch of IOMMU region Peter Xu
2017-01-24 10:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 18/18] intel_iommu: enable vfio devices Peter Xu
2017-01-24 11:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/18] VT-d: vfio enablement and misc enhances Peter Xu
2017-01-24 14:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-25  4:48     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-25 14:26       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-26  7:16         ` Peter Xu

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