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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, jolsa@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] perf, tools, stat: Output JSON MetricExpr metric
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:31:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170208113134.GE10639@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170128020345.19007-11-andi@firstfloor.org>

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 06:03:45PM -0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> 
> Add generic infrastructure to perf stat to output ratios for "MetricExpr"
> entries in the event lists. Many events are more useful as ratios
> than in raw form, typically some count in relation to total ticks.
> 
> Transfer the MetricExpr information from the alias to the evsel.
> 
> We mark the events that need to be collected for MetricExpr, and also
> link the events using them with a pointer. The code is careful
> to always prefer the right event in the same group to minimize
> multiplexing errors. At the moment only a single relation is supported.
> 
> Then add a rblist to the stat shadow code that remembers stats based
> on the cpu and context.
> 
> Then finally update and retrieve and print these values similarly to the
> existing hardcoded perf metrics. We use the simple expression parser
> added earlier to evaluate the expression.
> 
> Normally we just output the result without further commentary,
> but for --metric-only this would lead to empty columns. So for this
> case use the original event as description.
> 
> So far there is no attempt to automatically add the MetricExpr event,
> if it is missing, however we suggest it to the user.
> 
> $ perf stat -a -I 1000 -e '{unc_p_clockticks,unc_p_freq_max_os_cycles}'
>      1.000228813        800,139,950      unc_p_clockticks
>      1.000228813        789,833,783      unc_p_freq_max_os_cycles  #     98.7
>      2.000654229        800,308,990      unc_p_clockticks
>      2.000654229        396,214,238      unc_p_freq_max_os_cycles  #     49.5

[jolsa@krava perf]$ ./perf stat -a -I 1000 -e '{unc_p_clockticks,unc_p_freq_max_os_cycles}'
invalid or unsupported event: '{unc_p_clockticks,unc_p_freq_max_os_cycles}'
Run 'perf list' for a list of valid events

could you show an example of the MetricExpr?

it's part of the event record, what if you wanted to have 2 or more metrics defined for event?

who defines those expressions?

what if you dont provide the necessary events needed for the expression?

shouldnt we do it the other way around? like pick an expression
we are interested in and perf will configure the needful..

> 
> $ perf stat -a -I 1000 -e '{unc_p_clockticks,unc_p_freq_max_os_cycles}' --metric-only
>      1.000206740     48.0
>      2.000451543     48.1

how does user know what those number stand for?

is there a way for user to display the metric expression?

it's still feels to me like a hack without much concept behind

jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-08 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-28  2:03 Support Intel uncore event lists Andi Kleen
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 01/10] perf, tools: Parse eventcode as number in jevents Andi Kleen
2017-02-10  7:41   ` [tip:perf/core] perf jevents: Parse eventcode as number tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 02/10] perf, tools: Add support for parsing uncore json files Andi Kleen
2017-02-10  7:41   ` [tip:perf/core] perf jevents: " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf, tools: Support per pmu json aliases Andi Kleen
2017-02-10  7:42   ` [tip:perf/core] perf pmu: " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 04/10] perf, tools: Support event aliases for non cpu// pmus Andi Kleen
2017-02-10  7:42   ` [tip:perf/core] perf pmu: " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 05/10] perf, tools: Add debug support for outputing alias string Andi Kleen
2017-02-10  7:43   ` [tip:perf/core] perf list: " tip-bot for Andi Kleen
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf, tools: Collapse identically named events in perf stat Andi Kleen
2017-02-08 11:31   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 07/10] perf, tools: Expand PMU events by prefix match Andi Kleen
2017-02-08 11:30   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 08/10] perf, tools: Add a simple expression parser for JSON Andi Kleen
2017-02-08 11:31   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 09/10] perf, tools: Support MetricExpr header in JSON event list Andi Kleen
2017-02-08 11:31   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-01-28  2:03 ` [PATCH 10/10] perf, tools, stat: Output JSON MetricExpr metric Andi Kleen
2017-02-08 11:31   ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2017-02-08 21:51     ` Andi Kleen
2017-02-09 11:39       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-02-09 17:00         ` Andi Kleen
2017-02-09 18:37           ` Jiri Olsa
2017-02-09 18:59             ` Andi Kleen
2017-02-10  8:22               ` Jiri Olsa
2017-02-09 11:42       ` Jiri Olsa

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