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From: "Michał Kępień" <kernel@kempniu.pl>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Woithe <jwoithe@just42.net>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy@infradead.org>,
	Platform Driver <platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] fujitsu-laptop: renames and cleanups
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 07:57:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170209065702.GA999@ozzy.nask.waw.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75VfaN+wefbk71OthMDTeDLc9pu7fwrnMm_0hrh8VocheHw@mail.gmail.com>

> Regarding ACPI case and device presents you may assume it if you just call
> acpi_walk_namespace() (AFAIU) and check _STA for the device if it's in
> the table.
> 
> So, at any point you may have got understanding if device is present
> or not, and if it's active or not.

Thank you for the tip, though I am a bit confused, sorry.  I infer the
above is a response to this part of my message:

> >     On the other hand, registering the platform device before the ACPI
> >     driver is also incorrect due to reasons I already pointed out in
> >     another thread (in short: we cannot _assume_ FUJ02E3 is present).

Perhaps my wording was inaccurate, but I do not have a technical problem
with detecting an ACPI device.  Instead, this passage was meant to be a
reference to the fourth paragraph of my cover letter for the series
titled "fujitsu_init() cleanup", i.e. the lengthy one awaiting comments
from you and/or Darren.  For your convenience, here is the paragraph in
question (roughly the second half is relevant):

> That would leave us with the remaining three sysfs attributes of the
> platform device, namely dock, lid and radios.  These all depend on the
> FUJ02E3 ACPI device.  Which begs the question: shall we reassign them to
> that ACPI device and drop the platform device altogether?  This would
> logically be the correct thing to do (panasonic-laptop and toshiba_acpi
> already assign extra sysfs attributes to ACPI nodes).  But I understand
> that this would break an 8-year-old userspace interface as functions
> previously exposed through /sys/devices/platform/fujitsu-laptop would be
> moved to /sys/bus/acpi/devices/FUJ02E3:00.  If that is unacceptable, the
> least we can (and should) do is to move platform device registration to
> acpi_fujitsu_hotkey_add().  What the driver currently does may create
> confusion in the future, because the platform device is registered
> unconditionally while it clearly depends on FUJ02E3 being present.  I do
> not know whether FUJ02E3 is present on all Fujitsu devices today without
> exception, but I do know that if Fujitsu ever decides to drop that
> device from its firmware, we would again (see above) expose a userspace
> interface (dock, lid, radios) which simply will not be able to function
> properly.

Perhaps things will become a bit more clear once you dig through that
thread :)

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Kępień

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-08 13:46 [PATCH 00/10] fujitsu-laptop: renames and cleanups Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 01/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: clearly denote backlight-related symbols Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: replace "hotkey" with "laptop" in symbol names Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: make platform-related variables match naming convention Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: rename FUNC_RFKILL to FUNC_FLAGS Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: replace numeric values with constants Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: remove redundant forward declarations Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: simplify acpi_bus_register_driver() error handling Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 08/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: only register backlight device if FUJ02B1 is present Michał Kępień
2017-02-13  2:40   ` [lkp-robot] [platform/x86] b925ff7dcd: BUG:unable_to_handle_kernel kernel test robot
2017-02-13  2:40     ` kernel test robot
2017-02-13  4:34     ` Jonathan Woithe
2017-02-13  8:14       ` Michał Kępień
2017-02-13 12:26         ` Jonathan Woithe
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 09/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: autodetect LCD interface on all models Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 13:46 ` [PATCH 10/10] platform/x86: fujitsu-laptop: remove redundant MODULE_ALIAS entries Michał Kępień
2017-02-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 00/10] fujitsu-laptop: renames and cleanups Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-09  1:36   ` Darren Hart
2017-02-09  1:46     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-09  6:57   ` Michał Kępień [this message]
2017-02-08 22:52 ` Jonathan Woithe
2017-02-09  7:29   ` Michał Kępień
2017-02-10  0:16 ` Jonathan Woithe
2017-02-10  0:42   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-17  2:57     ` Darren Hart
2017-02-17  3:08       ` Jonathan Woithe
2017-02-17  3:53         ` Darren Hart
2017-02-17  4:17           ` Jonathan Woithe
2017-02-17  5:23             ` Darren Hart
2017-02-24 20:34             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-26 11:30               ` Michał Kępień
2017-02-26 15:03                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-17  7:14           ` Michał Kępień
2017-02-24 22:13             ` Darren Hart

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