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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Steve Wise <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-core 03/14] cxgb3: Update to use new udma write barriers
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:45:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170216214527.GA13616@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <062e01d2889a$8ff847c0$afe8d740$@opengridcomputing.com>

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 03:20:56PM -0600, Steve Wise wrote:

> Hey Jason, is it possible the omission on these was never detected because the
> memory for cq (and sq and rq) queues is allocated in the kernel by
> dma_alloc_coherent(), and mapped to the process's address space?

If the pgprot in userspace is UC then the odds of having a problem are
much lower (but IIRC dma_alloc_coherent does not do that on
x86?).

But DMA coherent memory explicitly doesn't save you from requiring
barriers and it is still playing with fire as the compiler doesn't
know the memory is UC and can re-order loads improperly.

AFAIK, any arch that requires something special for dma_coherent
mappings is already broken for libibverbs in user space - as we do not
have any cache flushing support. So it sort of makes sense to use it
in the kernel, but if it produces anything other than cached memory
things will go terribly wrong for that arch when using libibverbs.

I suspect the primary reason is cxgb3 simply got lucky and the
compiler (that was tested) did not do anything bad, or place any
dependent loads too closely to the valid bit load.

x86 is fairly forgiving.. And quite possibly if you test today with
gcc 6 on ARM64 it might be broken?

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-16 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-16 19:22 [PATCH rdma-core 00/14] Revise the DMA barrier macros in ibverbs Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found] ` <1487272989-8215-1-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16 19:22   ` [PATCH rdma-core 01/14] mlx5: Use stdatomic for the in_use barrier Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-16 19:22   ` [PATCH rdma-core 02/14] Provide new names for the CPU barriers related to DMA Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-3-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16 22:07       ` Steve Wise
2017-02-17 16:37         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-16 19:22   ` [PATCH rdma-core 03/14] cxgb3: Update to use new udma write barriers Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-4-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16 21:20       ` Steve Wise
2017-02-16 21:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20170216214527.GA13616-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16 22:01             ` Steve Wise
2017-02-16 19:22   ` [PATCH rdma-core 04/14] cxgb4: " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-5-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-17 20:16       ` Steve Wise
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 05/14] hns: " Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 06/14] i40iw: Get rid of unique barrier macros Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-7-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 17:29       ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]         ` <20170301172920.GA11340-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 17:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170301175521.GB14791-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 22:14               ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]                 ` <20170301221420.GA18548-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 23:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20170301230506.GB2820-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 21:45                       ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]                         ` <20170303214514.GA12996-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-03 22:22                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20170303222244.GA678-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 19:16                               ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]                                 ` <20170306191631.GB34252-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 19:40                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20170306194052.GB31672-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 22:46                                       ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]                                         ` <20170307224622.GA45028-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 22:50                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20170307225027.GA20858-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 23:01                                               ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]                                                 ` <20170307230121.GA52428-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 23:11                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20170307231145.GB20858-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 23:23                                                       ` Shiraz Saleem
2017-03-06 18:18       ` Shiraz Saleem
     [not found]         ` <20170306181808.GA34252-GOXS9JX10wfOxmVO0tvppfooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 19:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170306190751.GA30663-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 23:16               ` Shiraz Saleem
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 07/14] mlx4: Update to use new udma write barriers Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-8-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-20 17:46       ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]         ` <206559e5-0488-f6d5-c4ec-bf560e0c3ba6-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-21 18:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170221181407.GA13138-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 14:57               ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                 ` <45d2b7da-9ad6-6b37-d0b2-00f7807966b4-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 17:31                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20170306173139.GA11805-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 16:44                       ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                         ` <55bcc87e-b059-65df-8079-100120865ffb-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-07 19:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20170307191824.GD2228-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-08 21:27                               ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                                 ` <6571cf34-63b9-7b83-ddb0-9279e7e20fa9-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-08 21:56                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20170308215609.GB4109-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-09 15:42                                       ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                                         ` <4dcf0cea-3652-0df2-9d98-74e258e6170a-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-09 17:03                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20170309170320.GA12694-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-13 15:17                                               ` Yishai Hadas
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 08/14] mlx5: " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-9-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 10:56       ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]         ` <d5921636-1911-5588-8c59-620066bca01a-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-27 18:00           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170227180009.GL5891-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 16:02               ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                 ` <2969cce4-8b51-8fcf-f099-2b42a6d40a9c-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 17:06                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20170228170658.GA17995-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02  9:34                       ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                         ` <24bf0e37-e032-0862-c5b9-b5a40fcfb343-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-02 17:12                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20170302171210.GA8595-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-06 14:19                               ` Yishai Hadas
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 09/14] nes: " Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 10/14] mthca: Update to use new mmio " Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 11/14] ocrdma: Update to use new udma " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-12-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-18 16:21       ` Devesh Sharma
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 12/14] qedr: " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-13-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-23 13:49       ` Amrani, Ram
     [not found]         ` <SN1PR07MB2207DE206738E6DD8511CEA1F8530-mikhvbZlbf8TSoR2DauN2+FPX92sqiQdvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-23 17:30           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170223173047.GC6688-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-24 10:01               ` Amrani, Ram
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 13/14] vmw_pvrdma: " Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-14-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-17 18:05       ` Adit Ranadive
2017-02-16 19:23   ` [PATCH rdma-core 14/14] Remove the old barrier macros Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <1487272989-8215-15-git-send-email-jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-23 13:33       ` Amrani, Ram
     [not found]         ` <SN1PR07MB22070A48ACD50848267A5AD8F8530-mikhvbZlbf8TSoR2DauN2+FPX92sqiQdvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-23 16:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-28 16:00   ` [PATCH rdma-core 00/14] Revise the DMA barrier macros in ibverbs Doug Ledford
     [not found]     ` <1488297611.86943.215.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 16:38       ` Majd Dibbiny
     [not found]         ` <C6384D48-FC47-4046-8025-462E1CB02A34-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 17:47           ` Doug Ledford

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