From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933633AbdCHBWL (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Mar 2017 20:22:11 -0500 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:36826 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933439AbdCHBWG (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Mar 2017 20:22:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 14:43:38 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Michal Hocko Cc: Johannes Weiner , Shaohua Li , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kernel-team@fb.com, minchan@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, riel@redhat.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 6/6] proc: show MADV_FREE pages info in smaps Message-Id: <20170307144338.023080a8cd600172f37dfe16@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20170307100545.GC28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <89efde633559de1ec07444f2ef0f4963a97a2ce8.1487965799.git.shli@fb.com> <20170301133624.GF1124@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170301183149.GA14277@cmpxchg.org> <20170301185735.GA24905@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170302140101.GA16021@cmpxchg.org> <20170302163054.GR1404@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170303161027.6fe4ceb0bcd27e1dbed44a5d@linux-foundation.org> <20170307100545.GC28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.1 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:05:45 +0100 Michal Hocko wrote: > On Fri 03-03-17 16:10:27, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:30:54 +0100 Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > > > It's not that I think you're wrong: it *is* an implementation detail. > > > > But we take a bit of incoherency from batching all over the place, so > > > > it's a little odd to take a stand over this particular instance of it > > > > - whether demanding that it'd be fixed, or be documented, which would > > > > only suggest to users that this is special when it really isn't etc. > > > > > > I am not aware of other counter printed in smaps that would suffer from > > > the same problem, but I haven't checked too deeply so I might be wrong. > > > > > > Anyway it seems that I am alone in my position so I will not insist. > > > If we have any bug report then we can still fix it. > > > > A single lru_add_drain_all() right at the top level (in smaps_show()?) > > won't kill us > > I do not think we want to put lru_add_drain_all cost to a random > process reading /proc//smaps. Why not? It's that process which is calling for the work to be done. > If anything the one which does the > madvise should be doing this. But it would be silly to do extra work in madvise() if nobody will be reading smaps for the next two months. How much work is it anyway? What would be the relative impact upon a smaps read? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg0-f69.google.com (mail-pg0-f69.google.com [74.125.83.69]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C916B038D for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg0-f69.google.com with SMTP id 187so26499118pgb.3 for ; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org (mail.linuxfoundation.org. [140.211.169.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w27si1235413pgc.348.2017.03.07.14.43.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:43:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 14:43:38 -0800 From: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 6/6] proc: show MADV_FREE pages info in smaps Message-Id: <20170307144338.023080a8cd600172f37dfe16@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20170307100545.GC28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <89efde633559de1ec07444f2ef0f4963a97a2ce8.1487965799.git.shli@fb.com> <20170301133624.GF1124@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170301183149.GA14277@cmpxchg.org> <20170301185735.GA24905@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170302140101.GA16021@cmpxchg.org> <20170302163054.GR1404@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170303161027.6fe4ceb0bcd27e1dbed44a5d@linux-foundation.org> <20170307100545.GC28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Michal Hocko Cc: Johannes Weiner , Shaohua Li , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kernel-team@fb.com, minchan@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, riel@redhat.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:05:45 +0100 Michal Hocko wrote: > On Fri 03-03-17 16:10:27, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:30:54 +0100 Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > > > It's not that I think you're wrong: it *is* an implementation detail. > > > > But we take a bit of incoherency from batching all over the place, so > > > > it's a little odd to take a stand over this particular instance of it > > > > - whether demanding that it'd be fixed, or be documented, which would > > > > only suggest to users that this is special when it really isn't etc. > > > > > > I am not aware of other counter printed in smaps that would suffer from > > > the same problem, but I haven't checked too deeply so I might be wrong. > > > > > > Anyway it seems that I am alone in my position so I will not insist. > > > If we have any bug report then we can still fix it. > > > > A single lru_add_drain_all() right at the top level (in smaps_show()?) > > won't kill us > > I do not think we want to put lru_add_drain_all cost to a random > process reading /proc//smaps. Why not? It's that process which is calling for the work to be done. > If anything the one which does the > madvise should be doing this. But it would be silly to do extra work in madvise() if nobody will be reading smaps for the next two months. How much work is it anyway? What would be the relative impact upon a smaps read? -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org