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From: "hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>
To: "bfields@fieldses.org" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kolga@netapp.com" <kolga@netapp.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 07:35:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170309153559.GA20205@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170309152948.GB3929@fieldses.org>

[please trim your replies instead of this giant unreadable garbage,
 thanks!]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 10:29:48AM -0500, bfields@fieldses.org wrote:
> So I don't understand why it needed to be added to copy_file_range().
> The copy and clone semantics are different enough that I think callers
> want to know which they're getting.

Because if a file systems implements clone is literally is always better
than doing a copy loop, so using it is an absolute non-brainer.

> Don't we want it to have more or less the same behavior as a read-write
> loop?  People are probably running backup programs that depend on just
> simple copies, and maybe the results are good enough for their purposes,
> or maybe they're actually corrupting parts of their backups and don't
> know, but we can't suddenly start aborting their backups with errors and
> tell users it's for their own good.  So copy_file_range() callers will
> need to handle EINVAL on changing files somehow.

They do, and the system call has been in the tree for almost a year and
a half, so we can't simply change it.  Fortunately we do have a flags
argument that can be used to implement your preferred semantics if you
care deeply enough about them.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-09 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-02 16:01 [RFC v1 00/19] NFS support for inter and async COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: Don't copy beyond the end of the file Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-02 16:34     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 20:47     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-03 21:08       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-03 21:32         ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]           ` <B3F80DA0-B4F8-4628-88C5-E5C047620F17@netapp.com>
2017-03-04  2:10             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 16:27               ` [RFC v1 01/19] " Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-06 19:09                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 19:23                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-06 19:23                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-07 14:18                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 14:18                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-07 23:40       ` [RFC v1 01/19] fs: " Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:05         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 17:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-03-08 17:32             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 19:53               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:00                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:00                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-08 20:18                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-03-08 20:18                   ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:18                     ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:32                     ` bfields
2017-03-08 20:49                       ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-08 20:49                         ` Trond Myklebust
2017-03-09 15:29                         ` bfields
2017-03-09 15:35                           ` hch [this message]
2017-03-09 16:16                             ` bfields
2017-03-09 16:17                               ` hch
2017-03-09 17:28                                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:28                                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 18:40                                   ` bfields
2017-03-09 21:55                                   ` hch
2017-03-09 17:35                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-09 17:35                                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 02/19] VFS permit cross device vfs_copy_file_range Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 03/19] VFS don't try clone if superblocks are different Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 04/19] NFS inter ssc open Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 05/19] NFS add COPY_NOTIFY operation Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 06/19] NFS add ca_source_server<> to COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 07/19] NFS CB_OFFLOAD xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 08/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 09/19] NFS OFFLOAD_STATUS op Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 10/19] NFS OFFLOAD_CANCEL xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 11/19] NFS COPY xdr handle async reply Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 12/19] NFS add support for asynchronous COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 13/19] NFS handle COPY reply CB_OFFLOAD call race Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 14/19] NFS send OFFLOAD_CANCEL when COPY killed Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 15/19] NFS make COPY synchronous xdr configurable Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 16/19] NFS handle COPY ERR_OFFLOAD_NO_REQS Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 17/19] NFS skip recovery of copy open on dest server Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 18/19] NFS recover from destination server reboot for copies Olga Kornievskaia
2017-03-02 16:01 ` [RFC v1 19/19] NFS if we got partial copy ignore errors Olga Kornievskaia

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