From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Daniel P. Berrange" Subject: Re: Obsolete QEMU host environments Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:40:55 +0000 Message-ID: <20170315094055.GC7770@redhat.com> References: <87tw6y8bs8.fsf@secure.mitica> <20170314081312.GB13140@stefanha-x1.localdomain> <87wpbstesf.fsf@secure.mitica> <20170314160113.GM2445@work-vm> <20170314162020.GT2652@redhat.com> <5a03eebc-669c-c67b-d857-f4d1bbbeff36@twiddle.net> Reply-To: "Daniel P. Berrange" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Juan Quintela , QEMU Developer , KVM devel mailing list , Stefan Hajnoczi , Aurelien Jarno To: Richard Henderson Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:36944 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752839AbdCOJlD (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:41:03 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5a03eebc-669c-c67b-d857-f4d1bbbeff36@twiddle.net> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 07:09:55AM +1000, Richard Henderson wrote: > On 03/15/2017 03:07 AM, Peter Maydell wrote: > > On 14 March 2017 at 17:54, Thomas Huth wrote: > > > Our ia64 host backend in QEMU (tcg/ia64) is still marked as maintained > > > ... so it's maybe not as dead as you think? Or should we rather get rid > > > of that soon, too? > > > > I don't actually mind whether we keep tcg/ia64 or drop it. > > But if we keep it then we must have a machine we can test > > it on -- that means one I have access to (and which we > > can otherwise use for central testing), not just one the > > maintainer might happen to have. > > > > Also, that MAINTAINERS entry was added in 2011, so it's > > probably about as out of date as the code :-) > > Red Hat's last ia64 machine died a few years ago, so I haven't > been able to test it for quite some time. AFAIK, HP are the only major vendor who still sell new ia64 machines and that's high end stuff costing many $$$$$. Even they are pushing people to x86_64 unless they need ia64 for legacy reasons. Otherwise ebay and other secondhand marketplaces are the only way to get hold of ia64. Regards, Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52936) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1co5QY-0007Sk-Ag for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:41:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1co5QV-0005FW-7j for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:41:06 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:35450) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1co5QV-0005FD-0l for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:41:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:40:55 +0000 From: "Daniel P. Berrange" Message-ID: <20170315094055.GC7770@redhat.com> Reply-To: "Daniel P. Berrange" References: <87tw6y8bs8.fsf@secure.mitica> <20170314081312.GB13140@stefanha-x1.localdomain> <87wpbstesf.fsf@secure.mitica> <20170314160113.GM2445@work-vm> <20170314162020.GT2652@redhat.com> <5a03eebc-669c-c67b-d857-f4d1bbbeff36@twiddle.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5a03eebc-669c-c67b-d857-f4d1bbbeff36@twiddle.net> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Obsolete QEMU host environments List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Richard Henderson Cc: Peter Maydell , Thomas Huth , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Juan Quintela , QEMU Developer , KVM devel mailing list , Stefan Hajnoczi , Aurelien Jarno On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 07:09:55AM +1000, Richard Henderson wrote: > On 03/15/2017 03:07 AM, Peter Maydell wrote: > > On 14 March 2017 at 17:54, Thomas Huth wrote: > > > Our ia64 host backend in QEMU (tcg/ia64) is still marked as maintained > > > ... so it's maybe not as dead as you think? Or should we rather get rid > > > of that soon, too? > > > > I don't actually mind whether we keep tcg/ia64 or drop it. > > But if we keep it then we must have a machine we can test > > it on -- that means one I have access to (and which we > > can otherwise use for central testing), not just one the > > maintainer might happen to have. > > > > Also, that MAINTAINERS entry was added in 2011, so it's > > probably about as out of date as the code :-) > > Red Hat's last ia64 machine died a few years ago, so I haven't > been able to test it for quite some time. AFAIK, HP are the only major vendor who still sell new ia64 machines and that's high end stuff costing many $$$$$. Even they are pushing people to x86_64 unless they need ia64 for legacy reasons. Otherwise ebay and other secondhand marketplaces are the only way to get hold of ia64. Regards, Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|