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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/16] migration: Create thread infrastructure for multifd recv side
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 19:36:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170317193648.GC3061@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e9d3f9a-7e40-7ad6-90cd-63e7befcfe23@redhat.com>

* Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> On 17/03/2017 14:02, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> >>>          case RAM_SAVE_FLAG_MULTIFD_PAGE:
> >>>              fd_num = qemu_get_be16(f);
> >>> -            if (fd_num != 0) {
> >>> -                /* this is yet an unused variable, changed later */
> >>> -                fd_num = fd_num;
> >>> -            }
> >>> +            multifd_recv_page(host, fd_num);
> >>>              qemu_get_buffer(f, host, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE);
> >>>              break;
> >> I still believe this design is a mistake.
> > Is it a use of a separate FD carrying all of the flags/addresses that
> > you object to?
> 
> Yes, it introduces a serialization point unnecessarily, and I don't
> believe the rationale that Juan offered was strong enough.
> 
> This is certainly true on the receive side, but serialization is not
> even necessary on the send side.

Is there an easy way to benchmark it (without writing both) to figure
out if sending (word) (page) on one fd is less efficient than sending
two fd's with the pages and words separate?

> Multiple threads can efficiently split
> the work among themselves and visit the dirty bitmap without a central
> distributor.

I mostly agree; I kind of fancy the idea of having one per NUMA node;
but a central distributor might be a good idea anyway in the cases
where you find the heavy-writer all happens to be in the same area.

> 
> I need to study the code more to understand another issue.  Say you have
> a page that is sent to two different threads in two different
> iterations, like
> 
>     thread 1
>       iteration 1: pages 3, 7
>     thread 2
>       iteration 1: page 3
>       iteration 2: page 7
> 
> Does the code ensure that all threads wait at the end of an iteration?
> Otherwise, thread 2 could process page 7 from iteration 2 before or
> while thread 1 processes the same page from iteration 1.

I think there's a sync at the end of each iteration on Juan's current code
that stops that.

Dave

> 
> Paolo
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-13 12:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/16] Multifd v4 Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/16] qio: create new qio_channel_write_all Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:29   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-04-27  8:19     ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/16] qio: create new qio_channel_read_all Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:30   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/16] migration: Test for disabled features on reception Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:21   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/16] migration: Don't create decompression threads if not enabled Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:25   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/16] migration: Add multifd capability Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/16] migration: Create x-multifd-threads parameter Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:37   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-13 16:50     ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/16] migration: Create x-multifd-group parameter Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:34   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-13 16:49     ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 17:12       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-13 18:35         ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/16] migration: Create multifd migration threads Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/16] migration: Start of multiple fd work Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 16:41   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-13 16:58     ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-14 10:34       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-14 12:32         ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/16] migration: Create ram_multifd_page Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/16] migration: Really use multiple pages at a time Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/16] migration: Send the fd number which we are going to use for this page Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/16] migration: Create thread infrastructure for multifd recv side Juan Quintela
2017-03-14  9:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-17 13:02     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-17 16:05       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-17 19:36         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-03-20 11:15           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-30 11:56             ` Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/16] migration: Test new fd infrastructure Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/16] migration: Transfer pages over new channels Juan Quintela
2017-03-13 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] migration: Flush receive queue Juan Quintela
2017-03-14 10:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/16] Multifd v4 Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-14 10:26   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-14 11:40     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-14 11:45       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-14 11:47   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-14 12:22     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-14 12:34       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-03-14 16:23         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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