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[108.11.208.204]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a26sm38886qtb.28.2017.04.05.18.16.12 (version=TLS1_1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 21:16:10 -0400 From: Todd Zullinger To: "brian m. carlson" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C6var_Arnfj=F6r=F0?= Bjarmason , "Tom G. Christensen" , Jeff King , Git Mailing List , Jonathan Nieder Subject: Re: [RFC] dropping support for ancient versions of curl Message-ID: <20170406011610.GF25542@zaya.teonanacatl.net> References: <20170404025438.bgxz5sfmrawqswcj@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20170406005301.4vmjkiu6qkj3g276@genre.crustytoothpaste.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="L2Brqb15TUChFOBK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170406005301.4vmjkiu6qkj3g276@genre.crustytoothpaste.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org --L2Brqb15TUChFOBK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable brian m. carlson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 05, 2017 at 12:51:38PM +0200, =C6var Arnfj=F6r=F0 Bjarmason w= rote: >> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Tom G. Christensen wrote: >> Whoah. So my assumption in=20 >> >> that nobody was compiling this & thus not reporting failures was=20 >> false. Rather there's an entire community & distribution mechanism=20 >> around patching git for older EL versions, but the patches aren't=20 >> making it upstream. >> >> $ grep -h -e ^Subject -e ^Date *patch=20 >> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:34:11 +0200=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 1/7] Make NO_PERL_MAKEMAKER behave more like=20 >> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:02:02 +0200=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 2/7] Install man pages when NO_PERL_MAKEMAKER is used=20 >> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:42:50 +0200=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 3/7] Allow svnrdump_sim.py to be used with Python 2.2=20 >> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 09:31:56 +0100=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 4/7] Handle missing HTTP_CONNECTCODE in curl < 7.10.7=20 >> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:32:51 +0200=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 5/7] Add support for gnupg < 1.4=20 >> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:15:13 +0200=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 6/7] Handle missing CURLINFO_SSL_DATA_{IN,OUT}=20 >> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:26:54 +0200=20 >> Subject: [PATCH 7/7] Do not use curl_easy_strerror with curl < 7.12.0=20 >> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:24:44 -0500=20 >> Subject: [PATCH] Restore vc-git.el for basic compatibility on EL-5=20 >> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:03:36 -0400=20 >> Subject: [PATCH] git-cvsimport: Ignore cvsps-2.2b1 Branches: output >> >>> Patches can be found in the src.rpm, though I can also post them here a= s=20 >>> patch series, they cover more than just curl. >>> >>> I don't use the el3 and el4 versions much any more and el5 use will als= o=20 >>> drop of now as I'm busy converting machines from el5 to el7. >> >> It would be great to have them on-list, as far as I can tell they were= =20 >> never submitted? Is there some time/administrative reason for why=20 >> you're not submitting them? Some of these are many years old, it would= =20 >> be great to have them on-list for wider review & included so vanilla=20 >> git works on these platforms. The vc-git.el patch which I think came from the Fedora/EPEL package=20 for EL-5 was only intended to restore functionality to support the=20 older emacs on EL-5. Now that EL-5 is EOL, it can (thankfully, IMO)=20 die off. The git-csvimport patch looks to be in the same category (assuming it=20 was similar to what we included in the EPEL packages for EL-5=20 support). It was only needed (and applied) to support older systems=20 and wasn't something worth carrying upstream. > I'm very opposed to accepting patches for operating systems that are no= =20 > longer security supported. Having insecure systems directly or=20 > indirectly connected to the Internet is a very bad thing, and we=20 > shouldn't make it easier for people who want to do that. I concur. I (or we, the Fedora/EPEL package maintainers for git) have=20 tried to ensure that the packages for the latest Fedora release build=20 cleanly for all supported Fedora and EL releases. I think that is=20 useful for those who use CentOS/RHEL and still want to have a recent=20 git build. I don't see any benefit in making it easier for folks to run systems=20 that are no longer receiving updates for critical security issues. =20 It's surely hard enough to support EL-6 as it ages. ;) > CentOS 6 and 7 are still in use and security supported, and I think=20 > we should support them. CentOS 5 is EOL, although RHEL 5 is still=20 > supported in some cases. RHEL 4 and earlier are definitely out of=20 > support and we shouldn't support or consider them further. I know RHEL 5 has some extended support from Red Hat, but EPEL-5 is=20 dead. So from my perspective, supporting EL-5 isn't worth the effort. --=20 Todd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Statistics are like a lamp-post to a drunken man - more for leaning on than illumination. --L2Brqb15TUChFOBK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQFDBAEBCAAtBQJY5ZbaJhhodHRwOi8vd3d3LnBvYm94LmNvbS9+dG16L3BncC90 bXouYXNjAAoJEEMlk4u+rwzj4sEIAJdBmcYuVfqmN9MKIksauK0bbnGisfgaewPJ LD5oWpBKaQVS4eOmIS6t1S1Z060jnlVoFj34IYcUolH7o+EU2JHxiYLuuVRvJjTX UPb3pFTgD2A1DmYZ2N1GdzRniloqicy5Q64AyyiHXqQ2jv9Gowi3rwmu8NN+0vNA /nvsxduWMPXeJZxrkdjPOBI9YRkEakBKrBQAlND+SGfHoah7tcp0kusYWoprfsG3 Tl+8CVvZUw4fwQigUxFxaVTeIWdthtDH+z9H8YqTnNKTEe7+Jzt+GcZujpNtbv7/ 1HAOoSsN8Ptk9EVgrDEFOeacazIKK600DTcIr+C2GPMQBxTO2vA= =cda+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --L2Brqb15TUChFOBK--