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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Andrew Jones" <drjones@redhat.com>,
	"Christoffer Dall" <cdall@linaro.org>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	marc.zyngier@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: add kvm_request_pending
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 11:19:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170408181951.GC29201@lvm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1dab6862-9b0f-17c9-c6d0-542b460ec5c7@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 11:33:33PM +0800, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/04/2017 23:08, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > My own made-up lingo to state that each time the variable is accessed it
> > must be loaded anew, taken care of by the volatile use in READ_ONCE.  As
> > vcpu->requests can be written by other threads, then I prefer READ_ONCE
> > being used to read it, as it allows me to avoid spending energy convincing
> > myself that the compiler would have emitted a load at that point anyway.
> 
> Also, READ_ONCE without a barrier is really fishy unless it's
> 
>   while (READ_ONCE(x) != 2) {
>       ...
>   }
> 
> or similar, and WRITE_ONCE doesn't even have this exception.  So
> annotating variables accessed by multiple threads with
> READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE is generally a good idea.
> 

I'm sorry, I'm confused.  You're saying that it's fishy to use
READ_ONCE() without also having a barrier, but does that imply that if
you have a barrier, you should also have READ_ONCE() ?

In any case, as I hope I've made clear, I'm perfectly fine with having
READ_ONCE(), as long as we make a best effort attempt at describing why
we added it, so even I can understand that later - in the code directly
or in the commit message.

Thanks,
-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-08 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-31 16:06 [PATCH v2 0/9] KVM: arm/arm64: race fixes and vcpu requests Andrew Jones
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] KVM: add kvm_request_pending Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:30   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 16:41     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 13:10       ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-05 17:39         ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 18:30           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 20:20           ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-06 12:02             ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-06 14:37               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 15:08                 ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-07 15:33                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-08 18:19                     ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-04-06 14:25             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 13:15               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-08 18:23                 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-08 19:32                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-11 21:06                     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] KVM: Add documentation for VCPU requests Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:24   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:06     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:23       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 14:11         ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-05 17:45           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 18:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05 20:46               ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-06 14:29                 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 11:44                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-06 14:27               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-06 10:18   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-04-06 12:08     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-06 12:29     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] KVM: arm/arm64: prepare to use vcpu requests Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 15:34   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:06     ` Andrew Jones
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] KVM: arm/arm64: replace vcpu->arch.pause with a vcpu request Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 13:39   ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04 14:47     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 14:51       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 15:05         ` Marc Zyngier
2017-04-04 17:07         ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 16:04   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 16:24     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:19       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 17:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:57           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:15             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 18:38               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:18           ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 18:59             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 17:57     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:04       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 20:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-05  7:09           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 11:37             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-06 14:14               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-07 11:47                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-08  8:35                   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] KVM: arm/arm64: replace vcpu->arch.power_off " Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:37   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] KVM: arm/arm64: use a vcpu request on irq injection Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:42   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:27     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 18:59     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 18:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] KVM: arm/arm64: PMU: remove request-less vcpu kick Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 17:46   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-04 18:29     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:35       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] KVM: arm/arm64: fix race in kvm_psci_vcpu_on Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:42   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05  8:35     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05  8:50       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05  9:12         ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05  9:30           ` Christoffer Dall
2017-03-31 16:06 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] KVM: arm/arm64: avoid race by caching MPIDR Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 19:44   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05  8:50     ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-05 11:03       ` Christoffer Dall
2017-04-05 11:14         ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-03 15:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] KVM: arm/arm64: race fixes and vcpu requests Christoffer Dall
2017-04-03 17:11   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04  7:27   ` Andrew Jones
2017-04-04 16:05     ` Christoffer Dall

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