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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: x86: fix KVM_SET_CLOCK relative to setting correct clock value
Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 00:46:48 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170513034648.GA20368@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170512173711.GA13226@potion>

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 07:37:12PM +0200, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> 2017-05-12 12:31-0300, Marcelo Tosatti:
> > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 04:13:23PM +0200, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> > > 2017-05-11 12:39-0300, Marcelo Tosatti:
> > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 08:04:31PM +0200, Radim Krčmář wrote:
> > > > > 2017-05-03 10:43-0300, Marcelo Tosatti:
> > > > > and the important fix for kvm master clock is the move of
> > > > > kvm_gen_update_masterclock() before we read the time.
> > > 
> > > > > The rest is just a minor optimization that also ignores time since
> > > > > master_kernel_ns() and therefore pins user_ns.clock to a slightly
> > > > > earlier time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But all attention was given to the "minor optimization" -- have I missed
> > > > > something about the direct use of ka->master_kernel_ns?
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't attempted to optimize anything. Not sure what you mean.
> > > 
> > > I mean, why doesn't the patch look like this?
> > d 
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > index 464da936c53d..8db1d09e59d7 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > @@ -4175,9 +4175,10 @@ long kvm_arch_vm_ioctl(struct file *filp,
> > >  			goto out;
> > >  
> > >  		r = 0;
> > > +		kvm_gen_update_masterclock(kvm);
> > >  		now_ns = get_kvmclock_ns(kvm);
> > >  		kvm->arch.kvmclock_offset += user_ns.clock - now_ns;
> > > -		kvm_gen_update_masterclock(kvm);
> > > +		kvm_make_all_cpus_request(kvm, KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE);
> > >  		break;
> > 
> >         now_ns = ka->master_kernel_ns + kvmclock_offset_prev + (grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now)
> >         kvmclock_offset += user_ns.clock - (ka->master_kernel_ns + kvmclock_offset_prev + (grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now)
> >         kvmclock_offset = kvmclock_offset_prev + user_ns.clock - (ka->master_kernel_ns + kvmclock_offset_prev + (grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now)
> > 
> > In case of VM was just initialized before migration, kvmclock_offset_prev is -ktime_get_boot_ns()
> > 
> >         kvmclock_offset = -ktime_get_boot_ns() + user_ns.clock - (ka->master_kernel_ns -ktime_get_boot_ns() + grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now))
> > 
> > But master_kernel_ns = ktime_get_boot_ns()     +  delta-between-vm-init-and-KVM_SET_CLOCK (AKA delta)
> >                     (the same one from VM init) 
> > 
> >         kvmclock_offset = -ktime_get_boot_ns() + user_ns.clock - (ktime_get_boot_ns() + delta + -ktime_get_boot_ns() + grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now))
> > 
> >         kvmclock_offset = -ktime_get_boot_ns() + user_ns.clock - delta - grdtsc() + ka->master_cycle_now
> > 
> > But we don't want grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now in there.
> > 
> > Note: grdtsc() == guest read tsc.
> > 
> > Now with
> > 
> > +			kvm->arch.kvmclock_offset = user_ns.clock -
> > +							ka->master_kernel_ns;
> > 
> > What happens is that guest clock starts counting, via kernel timekeeper,
> > at the moment kvm_get_time_and_clockread() runs. If you add grdtsc() -
> > ka->master_cycle_now in there, you are mindfully counting clock twice
> > (first: kernel timekeeper, second: the TSC between the (grdtsc() -
> > ka->master_cycle_now) in question.
> > 
> > +			kvm->arch.kvmclock_offset =  -ktime_get_boot_ns() +user_ns.clock -delta
> > 
> > Note that (grdtsc() - ka->master_cycle_now) is susceptible to scheduling
> > etc.
> > 
> > Makes sense?
> 
> Yes.  The simpler code starts the kvmclock a bit later, but both are
> correct -- anything within KVM_SET_CLOCK runtime is.

No the simpler code is not correct. You count time with two clocks for a
small period of time.

KVM_SET_CLOCK means: set the guest clock to the passed value and start
counting it from there.

With the simple fix, KVM_SET_CLOCK does: set the guest clock to the
passed value, but also add the delta between kvm_get_time_and_clockread() 
and get_kvmclock_ns(). 
Which is variable, due to scheduling.
So it is just wrong.

> If we care about accuracy, then we should let userspace provide a
> (kernel timestamp, kvm timestamp) pair, so the value of kvmclock can
> really be controlled.

I suppose something else has to be done: the control of the clock, 
from whatever userspace is using to measure passage of time, 
to TSC, has to be done in kernel.

But lets see if that is really necessary when the QEMU
PTP/CLOCK_MONOTONIC delta stuff is done (working on it).

In the meantime, do you have anything against this patch? I depend on 
it for the work above.

> Adding ugly optimizations to work around shortcomings of the API is
> going the wrong way ...

What optimization you refer to?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-13  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-02 21:36 [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix KVM_SET_CLOCK relative to setting correct clock value Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-03 13:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-03 13:40   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-03 13:55     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-03 18:24       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-03 13:43   ` [PATCH v2] " Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-10 18:04     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-05-11 15:39       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 14:13         ` Radim Krčmář
2017-05-12 14:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-12 15:31           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 17:37             ` Radim Krčmář
2017-05-13  3:46               ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2017-05-15 16:19                 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-05-15 21:06                   ` Marcelo Tosatti

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