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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mgorman@suse.de,
	vbabka@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: Serialize warn_alloc() if schedulable.
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:10:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170601151022.b17716472adbf0e6d51fb011@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170601132808.GD9091@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:28:08 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:

> On Thu 01-06-17 22:11:13, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 01-06-17 20:43:47, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > Cong Wang has reported a lockup when running LTP memcg_stress test [1].
> > >
> > > This seems to be on an old and not pristine kernel. Does it happen also
> > > on the vanilla up-to-date kernel?
> > 
> > 4.9 is not an old kernel! It might be close to the kernel version which
> > enterprise distributions would choose for their next long term supported
> > version.
> > 
> > And please stop saying "can you reproduce your problem with latest
> > linux-next (or at least latest linux)?" Not everybody can use the vanilla
> > up-to-date kernel!
> 
> The changelog mentioned that the source of stalls is not clear so this
> might be out-of-tree patches doing something wrong and dump_stack
> showing up just because it is called often. This wouldn't be the first
> time I have seen something like that. I am not really keen on adding
> heavy lifting for something that is not clearly debugged and based on
> hand waving and speculations.

I'm thinking we should serialize warn_alloc anyway, to prevent the
output from concurrent calls getting all jumbled together?

I'm not sure I buy the "this isn't a mainline kernel" thing. 
warn_alloc() obviously isn't very robust, but we'd prefer that it be
robust to peculiar situations, wild-n-wacky kernel patches, etc.  It's
a low-level thing and it should Just Work.

I do think ratelimiting will be OK - if the kernel is producing such a
vast stream of warn_alloc() output then nobody is going to be reading
it all anyway.  Probably just the first one is enough for operators to
understand what's going wrong.

So...  I think both.  ratelimit *and* serialize.  Perhaps a simple but
suitable way of doing that is simply to disallow concurrent warn_allocs:

	/* comment goes here */
	if (test_and_set_bit(0, &foo))
		return;
	...
	clear_bit(0, &foo);

or whatever?

(And if we do decide to go with "mm,page_alloc: Serialize warn_alloc()
if schedulable", please do add code comments explaining what's going on)

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-01 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-01 11:43 [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: Serialize warn_alloc() if schedulable Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-01 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-01 13:11   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-01 13:28     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-01 22:10       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2017-06-02  7:18         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-02 11:13           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-02 12:15             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-02 17:13               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-02 21:57             ` Cong Wang
2017-06-04  8:58               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-04 15:05                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-04 21:43                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-05  5:37                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-05 18:15                       ` Cong Wang
2017-06-06  9:17                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-05 18:25                 ` Cong Wang
2017-06-22 10:35                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-22 22:53                     ` Cong Wang
2017-06-02 16:59           ` Cong Wang
2017-06-02 19:59           ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-03  2:57             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-03  7:32             ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-03  8:36               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-05  7:10                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-05  9:36                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-05 15:02                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-03 13:21               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-08  4:59           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-10 13:21             ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-10 13:54               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-10 14:14                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-11 13:10                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-11 13:49                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-11 14:58                       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-11 22:06                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-12  8:54                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-12 12:23                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-12 12:41                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:30                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-07-14 12:48                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-09  6:14                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-08-09 13:01                                     ` Tetsuo Handa

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