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From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] cpuidle: menu: nearby timer use lightest state; allow state 0 to be disabled
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 20:49:06 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170605151906.GA2929@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170530162631.9073-1-npiggin@gmail.com>

Hello Nicholas,

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 02:26:31AM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> I've found the menu driver does not allow state0 to properly be disabled
> because of all this poll logic selecting the first state and then trying
> to iterate over subsequent states. Ripping most of that out and simplifying
> it solved that issue but raised more questions about polling logic.

At one point menu governor did allow state0 to be disabled. However,
in cases where the predicted residency is so small that none of the
higher idle states are valid, the menu governor would return -1 (no
suitable state). As a result, the history would never get
populated. Thus, the menu governor would always predict state0 which
was disabled thus resulting in a viscious cycle where none of the idle
states were entered into on a completely idle system.

This was fixed in commit 9c4b2867ed7c8c8784dd417ffd16e705e81eb145 ("
cpuidle: menu: Fix menu_select() for CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START == 0")
which had an unfortunate side-effect of not allowing state0 to be
disabled.

> 
> Firstly polling logic is there only on architectures which define
> ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX, which is only x86. Seems like if we think a
> timer is so close that no powersave should be done, then surely just
> picking the lightest mode (whether that is polling or something else)
> would be best.
> 
> But looking further into it, it seems maybe like some x86 hack (as
> the comments and changelog in 7884084f3bcc and subsequent attempts to
> work around Atom and broken firmware suggests). I would have thought
> such broken hard/firmware should get workarounds applied to fix the
> state values rather than add such logic?
> 
> On the other hand, if (CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START > 0) is shorthand for
> if (x86 hacks), that's fine I'm happy to leave that alone and just work
> with the else parts...

At least on POWER, CPUIDLE_DRIVER_START == 0.

> 
> This is just a draft, but it does what I want at least with regard to
> disabling state0 for testing.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nick
> 
> ---
>  drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c | 25 ++++++++++++++++---------
>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
> index b2330fd69e34..05de5d345ac7 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
> @@ -286,6 +286,8 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev)
>  	struct device *device = get_cpu_device(dev->cpu);
>  	int latency_req = pm_qos_request(PM_QOS_CPU_DMA_LATENCY);
>  	int i;
> +	int first_idx;
> +	int idx;
>  	unsigned int interactivity_req;
>  	unsigned int expected_interval;
>  	unsigned long nr_iowaiters, cpu_load;
> @@ -318,7 +320,6 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev)
>  	data->predicted_us = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST_ULL((uint64_t)data->next_timer_us *
>  					 data->correction_factor[data->bucket],
>  					 RESOLUTION * DECAY);
> -
>  	expected_interval = get_typical_interval(data);
>  	expected_interval = min(expected_interval, data->next_timer_us);
> 
> @@ -327,19 +328,19 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev)
>  		unsigned int polling_threshold;
> 
>  		/*
> -		 * We want to default to C1 (hlt), not to busy polling
> -		 * unless the timer is happening really really soon, or
> -		 * C1's exit latency exceeds the user configured limit.
> +		 * x86 wants to avoid busy polling unless the timer is
> +		 * happening really really soon, or C1's exit latency exceeds
> +		 * the uesr configured limit.
>  		 */
>  		polling_threshold = max_t(unsigned int, 20, s->target_residency);
>  		if (data->next_timer_us > polling_threshold &&
>  		    latency_req > s->exit_latency && !s->disabled &&
>  		    !dev->states_usage[CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START].disable)
> -			data->last_state_idx = CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START;
> +			first_idx = CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START;
>  		else
> -			data->last_state_idx = CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START - 1;
> +			first_idx = CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START - 1;
>  	} else {
> -		data->last_state_idx = CPUIDLE_DRIVER_STATE_START;
> +		first_idx = 0;
>  	}
> 
>  	/*
> @@ -359,7 +360,8 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev)
>  	 * Find the idle state with the lowest power while satisfying
>  	 * our constraints.
>  	 */
> -	for (i = data->last_state_idx + 1; i < drv->state_count; i++) {
> +	idx = -1;
> +	for (i = first_idx; i < drv->state_count; i++) {
>  		struct cpuidle_state *s = &drv->states[i];
>  		struct cpuidle_state_usage *su = &dev->states_usage[i];
> 
> @@ -370,9 +372,14 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_driver *drv, struct cpuidle_device *dev)
>  		if (s->exit_latency > latency_req)
>  			break;
> 
> -		data->last_state_idx = i;
> +		idx = i;
>  	}
> 
> +	if (idx == -1) /* no states */
> +		idx = 0;

So even if state0 is disabled, when no suitable states are found we
will still fallback to state0. The additional thing this patch does is
to check inside the loop if state0 is disabled or not. This patch
improves the readability by making the fallback to state0 on no
suitable states being found.

Are you able to observe any functional difference with this patch ?

> +
> +	data->last_state_idx = idx;
> +
>  	return data->last_state_idx;
>  }
>

--
Thanks and Regards
gautham.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-05 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-30 16:26 [RFC] cpuidle: menu: nearby timer use lightest state; allow state 0 to be disabled Nicholas Piggin
2017-06-05  7:40 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-06-05 12:58   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-05 15:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy [this message]
2017-06-06  1:15   ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-06-06 10:04     ` Gautham R Shenoy

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