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From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	ahmad omary <ahmad151084-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Ahmad Omary <ahmad-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tzahi Oved <tzahio-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alex Rosenbaum <Alexr-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ariel Levkovich <lariel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] libibverbs IB Device Memory support
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 20:41:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170605174151.GR6868@mtr-leonro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170605171749.GA20477-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

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On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 11:17:49AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 08:08:25PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 11:44:00AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Wed, 10 May 2017, ahmad omary wrote:
> > >
> > > > We have considered using mmap(), but As the size of device memory may be limited
> > > > ,the way to access it from host cpu may differ from vendor to vendor, due to
> > > > the 4K (page) aligment limitation of mmap() and the need not to directly
> > > > allow user to access the device memory, there is a need for a wrapper access
> > > > methods API that allows allocating and managing chunks that are smaller than
> > > > 4KB and not necessarily aligned to 4KB (page size).
> > >
> > > Why are 4k sized chunks a problem given that there are megabytes of memory
> > > in these devices? We are using various adapters already with an mmapped
> > > solution here.
> >
> > Ahmad presented use case where he needs access to small objects
> > (semaphores) in large scale (MPI). 1MB in the granularity of 4k will give us
> > 256 chunks only, and it is definitely not enough.
>
> Is 256 chunks per machine not enough? A single process could carve out
> smaller regions from the 4k kernel allocation.

It is rough calculation for 1MB, when I asked Ahmad about this
limitation (4K) he explained to me that exposed device memory is less
than 1MB.

Thanks

>
> Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-05 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-10 11:25 [RFC] libibverbs IB Device Memory support ahmad omary
     [not found] ` <CADWppnpd9Up7wUTxRgSinhgx3kt3+0bKwgt6P_d3CV1oA90isQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 16:44   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1706051141230.26831-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 17:08       ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]         ` <20170605170825.GP6868-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 17:17           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20170605171749.GA20477-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 17:41               ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20170605174151.GR6868-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 22:11                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1706051705350.886-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 11:51                       ` Ahmad Omary
     [not found]                         ` <AM4PR0501MB1956B596450F3BC38806E775C4CB0-dp/nxUn679ggcKT3UpMsY8DSnupUy6xnnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 15:25                           ` Liran Liss
2017-06-06 15:30                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                             ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1706061022270.16819-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-08 13:10                               ` Liran Liss
2017-06-06  7:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-05 17:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20170605172058.GB20477-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06  5:52       ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]         ` <20170606055229.GT6868-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06  6:31           ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-06-06 16:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-06-06  7:35   ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]     ` <46b1a06d-5936-799c-7743-097c579971ef-NQWnxTmZq1alnMjI0IkVqw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 16:49       ` Logan Gunthorpe

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