From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752204AbdFMJF7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 05:05:59 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:54406 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751753AbdFMJF6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 05:05:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:05:48 +0200 From: Greg KH To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Cc: wagi@monom.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, rafal@milecki.pl, arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, yi1.li@linux.intel.com, atull@opensource.altera.com, moritz.fischer@ettus.com, pmladek@suse.com, johannes.berg@intel.com, emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com, luciano.coelho@intel.com, kvalo@codeaurora.org, luto@kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, keescook@chromium.org, takahiro.akashi@linaro.org, dhowells@redhat.com, pjones@redhat.com, hdegoede@redhat.com, alan@linux.intel.com, tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params Message-ID: <20170613090548.GA31421@kroah.com> References: <20170605213314.GR8951@wotan.suse.de> <20170605213937.26215-1-mcgrof@kernel.org> <20170605213937.26215-2-mcgrof@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170605213937.26215-2-mcgrof@kernel.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 02:39:33PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > As the firmware API evolves we keep extending functions with more arguments. > Stop this nonsense by proving an extensible data structure which can be used > to represent both user parameters and private internal parameters. Let's take a simple C function interface and make it a more complex data-driven interface that is impossible to understand and obviously understand how it is to be used and works! :( Seriously, why? Why are we extending any of this at all? This series adds a ton of new "features" and complexity, but for absolutely no gain. Oh, I take it back, you removed 29 lines from the iwlwifi driver. That's still not worth it at all, you have yet to sell me on this whole complex beast. I can't see why we need it, and if I, one of the few people who thinks they actually understand this kernel interface, can't see it, how can you sell it to someone else? Sorry, but no, I'm still not going to take this series until you show some _REAL_ benefit for it. thanks, greg k-h